[o11c]

I have no real knowledge of React from the developer side, but as an ordinary user who occasionally pokes around in dev tools to assign blame, React clearly is failing at Simplicity.

There are so many React websites where I see weird update bugs (e.g. updates for some parts of the page delayed by 3 seconds [not blocking render, the rest of the page is updating], or total wipe of something instead of incremental upgrades - weren't these the very problems React was supposed to solve?).

Mere excessive bloatedness I don't blame React for; all sorts of web dev fails at that.

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The main question I have for Remix is: does the explicit `.update` trigger immediately, or does it wait so it can coalesce multiple updates?

[epolanski]

React is a mess, Ivy league engineers building messy, slow, sloppy, inaccessible, full of memory leak websites should be a clear sign this is not a technology that fits most use cases.

In react's devs defense, they've said multiple times you should not use it if yours is a website and not really really an app on html, but people keep thinking their website is different and keep producing abominations like the new GitHub.