[o11c]

The amount of money the US Government pays just for that 40% should be enough to cover all 100%. We know this is possible because it happens in other countries, which have shorter waits and more coverage since that talking point keeps being brought up despite collapsing in the face of reality.

[refurb]

> The amount of money the US Government pays just for that 40% should be enough to cover all 100%

This is true as long as the following changes are made: 1) wages for healthcare workers are scalled back ~50%, 2) many drugs and medical procedures are not longer covered (a good example is CAR-T for cancer or drugs for rare diseases).

[eddd-ddde]

You forgot option 3. Private companies stop profiteering from healthcare.

[peter422]

The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Whether that quality is necessarily (or good) is debatable, but we are getting something for the money.

You also are just completely wrong in your main point. We cannot provide the same efficacy of healthcare as we are now for 60% less. We are the richest country in the world, labor costs more here than other places.

[hollandheese]

>The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Yeah, I'm gonna need a citation for that. Because it sounds like a health insurance propoganda rather than the actual truth.

[mystraline]

Citation definitely needed.

Ive been to doctors in different countries including the USA. Theres nothing special with general practitioners with the USA.

Or if you end up in China, you can get blood panels for like 10RMB, MRI for 30RMB, and damn near automated to boot.

Go to Mexico for dental work. What costs you here $30k costs you $2k, and they take your insurance.

The US citizens are being gouged, because our government has been bought out by corporate interests who bribe, err, campaign donate to both parties. And thats across every economic activity. Medical is just an egregious one, alongside academics.

[vkou]

Expenses are definitely higher, and doctors and hospital CEOs and med school CEOs do drive nicer cars and have bigger summer dachas, but I can't say the same about quality. Six month waits for a specialist, every PCP and shrink you'd want to visit not taking on new patients, ER wait times comparable with other developed nations, worse overall outcomes...

Maybe the top 0.5% is getting better care, but I really wouldn't shed a lot of crocodile tears for them.

[machomaster]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Simply not true.

Infant mortality and under-five mortality rate (U5MR) are one of best simple indicators of the quality of healthcare. USA's mortality is x3 (!!!) of the countries on top. This puts USA around place 50 in the world, worse than Russia...

[waterTanuki]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Source, backup your claims.

Health outcomes are WORSE than most other developed countries and that's the only statistic that matters here

[ikr678]

If you define quality as range of treatment options available, sure. If you define quality as range of treatment options that are accessible, absolutely not.

[AstroBen]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Do you have any evidence of that?

[healthy_throw]

It is also significantly more expensive: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-vs-health...

[sofixa]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Health outcomes do not support that statement.

[thrance]

US average lifespan are shorter than most of western Europe's.