[peter422]

The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Whether that quality is necessarily (or good) is debatable, but we are getting something for the money.

You also are just completely wrong in your main point. We cannot provide the same efficacy of healthcare as we are now for 60% less. We are the richest country in the world, labor costs more here than other places.

[hollandheese]

>The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Yeah, I'm gonna need a citation for that. Because it sounds like a health insurance propoganda rather than the actual truth.

[jopsen]

I tried an American PPO with $10 co-pay and no deductibles. It was awesome :)

Nobody could tell me what anything would cost, or if the insurance would cover it. But I always ended up paying $10, whether it was a few pills or an expensive MRI I didn't need. Oh, yeah the downside is you can accidentally convince your doctor to get procedures you don't need.

Health care in Denmark is decent. But I've been told, no when I wanted to run some tests. That would never happen on an American PPO :)

I have had go wait, while unpleasant, it's fairly harmless (otherwise they don't let you wait).

So if you're on an great PPO plan in the US, healthcare is great.

Whether the outcome is better for the average Joe, is probably a different question.

[mystraline]

Citation definitely needed.

Ive been to doctors in different countries including the USA. Theres nothing special with general practitioners with the USA.

Or if you end up in China, you can get blood panels for like 10RMB, MRI for 30RMB, and damn near automated to boot.

Go to Mexico for dental work. What costs you here $30k costs you $2k, and they take your insurance.

The US citizens are being gouged, because our government has been bought out by corporate interests who bribe, err, campaign donate to both parties. And thats across every economic activity. Medical is just an egregious one, alongside academics.

[vkou]

Expenses are definitely higher, and doctors and hospital CEOs and med school CEOs do drive nicer cars and have bigger summer dachas, but I can't say the same about quality. Six month waits for a specialist, every PCP and shrink you'd want to visit not taking on new patients, ER wait times comparable with other developed nations, worse overall outcomes...

Maybe the top 0.5% is getting better care, but I really wouldn't shed a lot of crocodile tears for them.

[peter422]

See what the wait times are for the specialists in other countries, if they even exist!

The US is also the 3rd biggest country in the world. It’s very hard to solve these things are such a massive scale.

[machomaster]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Simply not true.

Infant mortality and under-five mortality rate (U5MR) are one of best simple indicators of the quality of healthcare. USA's mortality is x3 (!!!) of the countries on top. This puts USA around place 50 in the world, worse than Russia...

[eudamoniac]

It's obesity, mostly

[waterTanuki]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Source, backup your claims.

Health outcomes are WORSE than most other developed countries and that's the only statistic that matters here

[ikr678]

If you define quality as range of treatment options available, sure. If you define quality as range of treatment options that are accessible, absolutely not.

[AstroBen]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Do you have any evidence of that?

[peter422]

15 out of the top 50 and 4/6 top hospitals in the world are in the US: https://rankings.newsweek.com/worlds-best-hospitals-2025

Again, I’m not saying the health care outcomes are better, or the value is better. I’m saying the hospitals are nicer, the doctors are the best, etc.

Perhaps this is the wrong thing to optimize for! But we are getting something.

[venturecruelty]

"My healthcare outcomes are great, which means American healthcare is good."

[healthy_throw]

It is also significantly more expensive: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/life-expectancy-vs-health...

[sofixa]

> The quality of health care in the US is significantly higher than anywhere else in the world.

Health outcomes do not support that statement.

[thrance]

US average lifespan are shorter than most of western Europe's.