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paulorlando | 2 months ago

The 2001 telecoms crash drove benefits for companies that came later in the availability of inexpensive dark fiber after the bubble popped. WorldCom, ICG, Williams sold off to Verizon, Level 3, Teleglobe, and others. That in turn helped future Internet companies gain access to plentiful and inexpensive bandwidth. Cable telephony companies such as Cablevision Systems, Comcast, Cox Communications, and Time Warner, used the existing coaxial connections into the home to launch voice services.

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maxglute|2 months ago

Rail and fiber deprecates on multiple decade timescales. AI data centers close to tulips. Even assuming we manage to make data center stretch to 10 years, these assets won't be around long enough to support ecosystem of new companies if the economics stops making sense. Ultimately the only durable thing is any power infra that gets built, vs rail and fiber where inheritance isn't just rail networks or fiber but like 1000s of kilometers of earthwork projects to build out massive physical networks.

signatoremo|2 months ago

Data centers last decades. Many or the current AI hosting vendors such as Coreweave have crypto origin. Their data centers were built out in 2010s, early 2020s.

Many of legacy systems still running today are IBM or Solaris servers at 20, 30 year old. No reason to believe GPU won’t still be in use in some capacity (e.g. interference) a decade from now.

lordnacho|2 months ago

Is this a question of the GPU chips dying due to be being warm semiconductors, or of them becoming outdated in relation to new chips?

epistasis|2 months ago

This is indeed true, but doesn't fiber have a far longer lifetime than GPU heavy data centers? The major cost center is the hardware, which has a fairly short shelf life.

gretch|2 months ago

Well you still get the establishment of 1) large industrial buildings 2) water/electricity distribution 3) trained employees who know how to manage a data center

Even if all of the GPUs inside burn out and you want to put something else entirely inside of the building, that's all still ready to go.

Although there is the possibility they all become dilapidated buildings, like abandoned factories