[Andrew_nenakhov]

Everybody in Russia who is not a complete idiot already has a VPN that allows to circumvent censorship (for now).

Source: I'm in Russia now.

In the end it'll likely end with whitelists of allowed IP addresses, and that will indeed insure that nobody would be able to access banned resources.

[grishka]

> In the end it'll likely end with whitelists of allowed IP addresses

I already had this idea of tunneling traffic through the voice/video calls in the Max messenger app. No one has done it in practice, yet, but I see no reason why it should not be possible.

Обход блокировок, который ловит даже на парковке ;)

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That does not seem like a good idea at all. Even if you are “not doing something stupid” the fact that you would be circumventing their app to bypass censorship they may deem you treasonous and a possible risk. Who knows what they could arrest you for.

[throwaway290]

great idea. use the app tied to your passport and gosuslugi to make sure they know who is the genius when they detect it.

edit: didn't know they allow anything except belarus, cool... as long as you can anonymously register that number

[woctordho]

There are plenty of ways to circumvent whitelists, such as domain fronting. Some are already battle-tested in China and we'd be happy to share them with the rest of the world.

[Lapsa]

I would argue use of VPN is idiotic

[Lapsa]

for (likely corrupt) down voters - one argument would be that it's basically a subscription to browser fingerprinting. vpn providers even openly state when such doings will begin

[throwaway290]

"everybody who is not a complete idiot" not true. looks like you're in your tech bubble and you think everybody else who is a regular person is an idiot.

using VPN for circumventing censorship is illegal in Russia. fine is worse if if you promote it. for people who can't afford to spend a few thousands it's enough.

some people don't care about fines, but new ISP equipment detects and ban VPNs quickly so people always need to keep trying new servers. so people get used to not using VPN more and more because it's annoying and unstable.

[Andrew_nenakhov]

Of course, it is true. If you are not a complete idiot, you won't be content with being blocked from the information you seek, so you'd find someone technical to help you out. I personally give access to my vpn server to ~100 users for free, and so far the access is stable enough. I have little doubts that in the future it'll be more difficult, but we'll see about that when we get there.

[coryrc]

> everybody else who is a regular person is an idiot.

Looking at your dictator's approval levels and the number of people willingly signing up to die while killing innocents, that sounds correct.

You all need help breaking the cycle of intergenerational trauma.