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systems | 2 months ago

well uniformity and homoiconicity are very important in an ideal db management system (a.k.a a true rdbms) everything should be represent as a relation and use the same set of operators to be manipulated

separations of types and relations should be limited to core atomic type, string, int , date etc ... (althought date is debatable as is not usually atomic in most cases, and many dbs end up with one more date relations)

anyway, always use a table .. when its a choice

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netcraft|2 months ago

couldn't have said it better myself.

Data should be data, queryable, relational. So often I have had to change enums into lookup tables - or worse, duplicate them into lookup tables - because now we need other information attached to the values. Labels, descriptions, colors, etc.

My biggest recommendation though is that if you have a lookup table like this, make the value you would have made an enum not just unique, but _the primary key_. Now all the places that you would be putting an ID have the value just like they would with an enum, and oftentimes you wont need to join. The FK makes sure its valid. The other information is a join away if you need it.

I do wish though that there were more ways to denote certain tables as configuration data vs domain data, besides naming conventions or schemas.

Edit to add: I will say there is one places where I have begrudgingly used enums and thats where we have used something like prisma to get typescript types from the schema. It is useful to have types generated for these values. Of course you can do your own generation of those values based on data, but there is a fundamental difference there between "schema" and "data".

systems|2 months ago

well, if DDL (data definition language) and DML (data manipulation language), were unified and both operated on relation , manipulating meta data would have been a lot simpler, and more dynamics

you can always created data dictionary relation, where you stored the code for table creation, add meta data, and use dynamic sql to execute the DML code stored in the DB, i worked somewhere where they did this ... sort of

mamcx|2 months ago

Yeah, that is what I think on https://tablam.org, where I consider everything could be a relation, so like

    "hello world" ? where #chars != " " == ["h", "e", ...]

9rx|2 months ago

> everything should be represent as a relation

> always use a table .. when its a choice

Everything should be represented as relations (sets of tuples) but you should always use tables (multisets of tuples) when possible? That seems a little contradictory.

systems|2 months ago

how do you want to represent relations in a DBMS, an enum or a table ?