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rescripting | 2 months ago

It’s trivial for law enforcement to track your movement with ALPR cameras. Information feeds into a single database, paid for by law enforcement agencies, and they just connect the dots.

Ring camera footage requires law enforcement to get a warrant or for individuals to give consent to supply the footage.

Now tell me which system makes it easier for a cop to stalk their ex.

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thih9|2 months ago

All this is assuming one travels exclusively by car. Bikes, public transport, or walking are not as easy to track using this system.

Then again, these modes of transport are less popular in the US; I guess such a surveillance system is extra effective in the US because of that.

Spooky23|2 months ago

Not yet. Facical recognition in 2025 is where LPR was in 2010.

As the cost of compute and wireless communications continues to drop, facial recognition will be prolific. There are more limitations with cameras, but AI will make it easy to backtrack movement to a place where they get a clean shot that can identify you.

As an example, the transit authority in NYC Metro was able to plug existing security feeds from trains into Amazon Rekognition to count heads, which feeds their ticketing app — you can see which carriages are full. As time goes on, they’ll become able to track the breadcrumbs individuals from seat to platform. (If not already)

Detectives do this manually today. I was on a jury where the purse snatcher was followed by various cameras until he got on a bus. They pulled the bus passes and tracked his pass back to his girlfriend.

garciasn|2 months ago

Less popular because it’s not feasible for many. I live in MN. Biking 20mi to work when it’s -10F and in 6” of fresh snow on top of the 12” received so far this season just isn’t something that’s safe to do.

Please don’t make it seem like it’s a “popularity” thing; it’s a necessity thing.

mananaysiempre|2 months ago

> public transport

Some European cities I remember having pervasive cameras in public transport a decade ago, ostensibly to prosecute vandals.

SauciestGNU|2 months ago

There was an article posted recently announcing that Flock reached an agreement with Amazon to ingest Ring cameras into their system.

Spooky23|2 months ago

Most ring users contribute their data and no warrant is required. If they don’t, the majority of people are cooperative.

Ring is problematic in some ways but doesn’t produce trivially searchable metadata.

ifh-hn|2 months ago

This comment went right off a cliff at the end...

lingrush4|2 months ago

If a police officer potentially stalking his ex is the worst failure mode this guy can come up with, let's keep the Flock cameras.

With the right access controls and approval processes, that can be fully solved in a week.