[axelthegerman]

Right let's add more layers that always solves everything.

No language or abstraction is perfect but if someone prefers pure functional coding, Rails and Django are just not it, don't try to make them. Others like em just as they are

[antonymoose]

Three clean and simple layers that dovetail are better than one ball-of-yarn God class with too many dependencies.

[jstanley]

You're more likely to get a ball-of-yarn if you try to separate things into unnatural layers than if you let it be a single layer.