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samuel | 2 months ago

I agree with the sentiment, but I think it's a pretty naive view of the issue. Companies will want all info they can in case some of their workers does something illegal-inappropiate to deflect the blame. That's a much more palpable risk than "local CA certificates being compromised or something like that.

And some of the arguments are just very easily dismissed. You don't want your employer to see you medical records? Why were you browsing them during work hours and using your employers' device in the first place?

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NicolaiS|2 months ago

TLS inspection can _never_ be implemented in a good way, you will always have cases where it breaks something and most commonly you will see very bad implementations that break most tools (e.g. it is very hard to trust a new CA because each of OS/browser/java/python/... will have their own CA store)

This means devs/users will skip TLS verification ("just make it work") making for a dangerous precedent. Companies want to protect their data? Well, just protect it! Least privilege, data minimization, etc is all good strategies for avoiding data leaking

tptacek|2 months ago

Sure it can; it just requires endpoint cooperation, which is a realistic expectation for most corporate IT shops.

itopaloglu83|2 months ago

I’m all for privacy of individuals, but work network is not a public internet either.

A solution is required to limit the network to work related activities and also inspect server communications for unusual patterns.

In one example someone’s phone was using the work WiFi to “accidentally” stream 20 GB of Netflix a day.

sceptic123|2 months ago

What's the security risk of someone streaming Netflix?

There are better ways to ensure people are getting their work done that don't involve spying on them in the name of "security".

immibis|2 months ago

In Europe they prefer not to go to jail for privacy violations. It turns out most of these "communist" regulations are actually pretty great.

johncolanduoni|2 months ago

Does GDPR (or similar) establish privacy rights to an employee’s use of a company-owned machine against snooping by their employer? Honest question, I hadn’t heard of that angle. Can employers not install EDR on company-owned machines for EU employees?