[daveoc64]

>Besides, why would you want to come if you don’t like it here?

There's a difference between saying that you disagree with the way that a country is being run, and wanting to be violent or pursue criminal activity against that country or its people.

What you're missing is that the former should be legal in any democracy (and is in the UK), and the latter shouldn't be legal anywhere (and isn't in the UK).

You're claiming the UK lacks "freedom of speech" because it doesn't allow people to incite violence online, while saying the USA has free speech, despite it seemingly rejecting visitors for legal political speech.

I know which side of the pond I'd rather be on.

[cess11]

'You're claiming the UK lacks "freedom of speech" because it doesn't allow people to incite violence online, while saying the USA has free speech, despite it seemingly rejecting visitors for legal political speech.'

Voicing support for the group Palestine Action has been met with quite harsh responses in the UK, even though that group is arguably non-violent in that its criminal actions are directed towards property with the aim of slowing actual violence.

There are other similar developments in UK state policy.

[hermitcrab]

>Voicing support for the group Palestine Action has been met with quite harsh responses in the UK, even though that group is arguably non-violent

That was my opinion. However one of them was alleged at a recent trial to have hit and injured a policewoman with a sledgehammer.

[rayiner]

> You're claiming the UK lacks "freedom of speech" because it doesn't allow people to incite violence online, while saying the USA has free speech, despite it seemingly rejecting visitors for legal political speech.

Free speech means the country must tolerate what citizens say; it does not mean the country can't exercise its discretion over its borders to bar entry to foreigners who say things citizens don't like.

[andor]

Free speech is generally considered a human right that should apply to anyone, not just citizens.

It's the basis of democracy, and a healthy democracy does not reject a visitor just because they criticized its government.

[scarecrowbob]

Is it not chilling if government can proscribe the things that you say for other people, as if your position is one the government can directly oppose and call illegitimate?

[daveoc64]

That's certainly a stance you can take, but it's not one I'd expect to see from a US administration that's repeatedly (including from the president less than 48 hours ago) got on its high horse to criticise what it perceives as a government crackdown on freedom of speech in European countries.