[vbernat]

It's odd to always say "Hashicorp, an IBM company". Looks like they want to assign blame.

I did try Pulumi a while back, but the compatibility with Terraform modules was not great, so I've switched to CDKTF, which can handle unmodified modules. Dunno if I'll switch back to Pulumi or just use OpenTofu directly.

[jjice]

> It's odd to always say "Hashicorp, an IBM company". Looks like they want to assign blame.

All their branding does this now, including the HashiCorp logo on their website [0]. There's gotta be a name for this specific branding pattern, but I don't know it.

[0] https://www.hashicorp.com/en/blog/products/terraform

[stingraycharles]

It’s endorsed branding. Basically when a parent company “endorses” its subsidiaries’ brands, but keep their own name (as opposed to renaming everything to IBM, like eg Google would do).

[huddo121]

Metastatized branding

[pretext-1]

I was recently working for a company which got acquired by IBM and we had to do it too. It’s an IBM thing. I bet most people at HashiCorp hate it, at least that was the case for us.

[dandellion]

Makes IBM look really bad. Do they also force people to bow when the CEO of IBM enters the room, and address them as sir or your highness?

[packetlost]

I have absolutely nothing good to say about Pulumi. Stay far, far away.

[willio58]

My experience with Pulumi is you can write bad pulumi code and good pulumi code and just like everything else, it's easy to end up in a codebase where one poor soul was tasked with writing it all and they didn't do the best job with it.

[here2learnstuff]

Please expand on your experiences, because I've had great luck with Pulumi at my company since October 2021. No engineer liked HCL, our demographic was engineers who were familiar with programming languages who wanted to self service basic infrastructure (AWS SecretsManager, IRSA roles, Databricks Service Principals, etc). We were pretty easily able to shim in a RunAtlantis inspired system that displayed previews that required explicit approval when a PR was raised, performed apply on merge to main, and ran drift checks periodically.

[weakfish]

Why? I’ve had nothing but good experiences, but I don’t run it and the team that does is extremely competent

[jen20]

Strange, I have a lot of good things to say about both it and Terraform.

Probably some specifics might be more useful there...

[katdork]

My experience is that by stealing providers from Terraform, they failed to properly handle statically typed languages (Go) with certain providers (HCloud); I had problems with their ID type and had to abandon my Pulumi setup.

[purpleidea]

Have a look at https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt/ and tell me what you think. We don't have enough docs though. Tough being an open source thing that you want to keep open.

[lighthazard]

Running SST with Pulumi and it's been a great experience. Infrastructure and maintenance has been pleasant and SST's pre-fabs really make things easy to spin up resources.

[mfornasa]

please expand on this, I am interested (for real!)

[smithcoin]

We use OpenTofu it’s pretty seamless

[benatkin]

Now more will be using a combination of OpenTofu and Terraform, and there will probably be some tacit endorsement of OpenTofu by Hashicorp folks in their communication with those who are using both. Good to see!

[Hamuko]

Does it do ephemeral values yet?

[atonse]

I was thinking the same thing about the "an IBM company". My guess is that it's a lazy find/replace.

[Pet_Ant]

I assume it's a matter of branding and making IBM look more modern by associating with the Hashicorp brand.

[cr125rider]

It’s one thing to say it once but 3 times in the same paragraph seems weird for sure!

[selkin]

> It's odd to always say "Hashicorp, an IBM company". Looks like they want to assign blame.

Or it's legal trying to preempt a risk.

If it was the author just wanting to point at IBM, they'd mention it just once or twice, but using that awkward phrase throughout the text makes me think it was an edit mandated by a careful lawyer.

[nsonha]

"Hashicorp, an IBM company"

Common sense would be IBM mandating that branding, as opposed to Hashicorp.

[roboben]

They should have renamed it first to HashiCorp, an IBM Company CDK, then shut it down

[firesteelrain]

It’s how Red Hat identifies themselves too

[viraptor]

It's common when corps buy large enough companies that they don't want to kill the original brand. That's why you get hotels like "(something) by Hilton".

[richardfontana]

Do you mean Red Hat identifies itself using the phrase "Red Hat, an IBM Company"? Because I don't see any use of this on redhat.com (including that website's corporate "about" content) and if any Red Hatters are using this phrasing (I'm a current Red Hat employee) I haven't been aware of it.