[roguecoder]

It is nice to see a car company investing in a sensor platform that could actually safely self-drive.

It is unfortunate that the existing market participants seem hell-bent on destroying consumer confidence in self-driving before this will make it to market.

We desperately need a safety regimen for self-driving cars that takes it as seriously as airplane safety.

[declan_roberts]

Have you driven in Tesla FSD 14 yet? I've been in both Waymo and the latest version of FSD from Tesla. They are very, very good.

[flounder3]

How many hours have you spent with the latest Tesla FSD in congested neighborhoods or unprotected left turns at sunset? It may be "good," but it's not even remotely close to the current Waymo experience, especially when it comes to abnormal situations. I am continually blown away by how Waymo behaves (spent 3 hours in them this past week). I'm rooting for Tesla, but it is nowhere near Waymo as of today.