[fridder]

I think it is the fact that python packaging has been problematic for some time. setuptools/easy_install, pip/pipx, poetry, conda, uv all promise they will be the thing that "fixes" it

[bigstrat2003]

Eh. Python packaging is just fine. Set up a venv, install with pip, done. I think that the difficulty of installing Python packages is wildly overblown on this site.

[SahAssar]

It's not overblown.

There's 10 different package managers and none of them seem to have any common conventions.

To even run a script you need to setup a venv and enter it by sourcing scripts.

Try to move a venv, it breaks.

Try to understand how/what/where it installs things its a black box if you are not "in" the ecosystem.

Node seems easy in comparison. I hate how python makes it so hard to use.

[bdangubic]

not “AI Bubble” overblown but close

[paulddraper]

What does Bash use for its packaging?

Use that.

[bccdee]

Ok tbh bash uses the system package manager to install command-line utilities, and using the system package manager for python packages HAS been tried, and the parallel use of system packaging and independent package managers is part of why python package distribution is such a mess.