It's humbling to know that the RAM of computers like ZX Spectrum and Commodore 64 would fit in a single IP packet. It took minutes to load that "paket" from cassette tape.
With IPv6 there is even an extension to go to 4 GB packets (extremely rare to actually be implemented though), which you can send in less than 100 ms with an 800G NIC!
He stores data in ICMP ping packets, but also Tetris board states, among others. If you are not familiar with Tom7, let this be an introduction to a heavyweight whimsical internet nerd
> There was a desperate search for better memory. We seriously considered. at one stage. renting a television microwave link from Boston to Buffalo and back so that one could store something like 3,000 bits in the 3 milliseconds of round-trip transit time.
Though I'm not sure why they wouldn't have just used a delay line for that task: that form of memory was already in use in computers, as discussed by Forrester himself from 11:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLpbhsE72I&t=675s .
The concept is widely covered in the amazing book Silence on the Wire[1] by Michal Zalewski. I wish he or someone else would write modern equivalent (or at least a new, updated edition) of the book.
makes me wonder if a sufficiently large number of connected nodes can represent bits via their online/offline status, and their network graph representing "memory"
Srsly... the ram inside a core router is some of the most precious resources around... this is an ooold idea.. people were doing at least as far back as the 2000s.. i showed them how our router (Avici TSR) worked and said "please don't use the super fancy fabric temporary store for this."
HenrikB|2 months ago
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cakemedia|2 months ago
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_jholland|2 months ago
He stores data in ICMP ping packets, but also Tetris board states, among others. If you are not familiar with Tom7, let this be an introduction to a heavyweight whimsical internet nerd
leoc|2 months ago
> There was a desperate search for better memory. We seriously considered. at one stage. renting a television microwave link from Boston to Buffalo and back so that one could store something like 3,000 bits in the 3 milliseconds of round-trip transit time.
Though I'm not sure why they wouldn't have just used a delay line for that task: that form of memory was already in use in computers, as discussed by Forrester himself from 11:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLpbhsE72I&t=675s .
EvanAnderson|2 months ago
ozozozd|2 months ago
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xvilka|2 months ago
[1] https://nostarch.com/silence.htm
cinntaile|2 months ago
lysace|2 months ago
dim13|2 months ago
[1]: http://www.gnuterrypratchett.com/
some_furry|2 months ago
https://xeiaso.net/blog/anything-message-queue/
jupitr|2 months ago
diydsp|2 months ago
Srsly... the ram inside a core router is some of the most precious resources around... this is an ooold idea.. people were doing at least as far back as the 2000s.. i showed them how our router (Avici TSR) worked and said "please don't use the super fancy fabric temporary store for this."
This kills the router designer.
unknown|2 months ago
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