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My payment agent is named George, not stripe-agent

51 points| fortyseven | 2 months ago |blog.kestrelsnest.social

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yellow_lead|2 months ago

Please disclose AI use, or the name of your "writing agent" at least, so I can know to skip the article. So much "it's not X it's Y" in this post, I'm losing it.

> This isn’t whimsy; it’s how I remember who the work is actually for.

> These aren’t chatbots with personalities; they’re specialized configurations I invoke by name to focus my intent.

> That’s when I realized the naming wasn’t a quirk. It was a practice.

It is a quirk

> I’m not asking for a generic security scan. I’m saying that I need to look for what I missed.

You aren't asking for a generic security scan? It seems like you're asking for a generic security scan.

> I need to look for what I missed. I need to find the secret traveling farther than it should, the data leaking where it shouldn’t, the assumption I made that an attacker won’t make. I need to be paranoid on behalf of the users whose data and trust I’m protecting.

> The names aren’t just labels. They’re invocations. They shape my intent before the work even starts.

They are just labels.

furyofantares|2 months ago

At least right now it's mostly in AI-related articles. Scroll any AI article and have a look at the number of topic headings as well as how many start with the word "The". I have my defenses up on any AI articles and can quickly avoid the are LLM-output with aesthetic clues. An upfront disclosure would of course be better.

Unfortunately other topics are still catching me off guard, like the article about complex numbers posted today which I managed to get through a third of before realizing all the grating bits I was reading were because it was from an LLM.

xarope|2 months ago

literally anthropomorphizing AI agents.

To be fair, I certainly name my tools. But I didn't have to use AI to invent a whole bunch of "personalities" for them.

pooper|2 months ago

I appreciate the writer actually taking the time to explain why `george`. I have worked in some projects where some thing-a-majing or another is called `valhalla` or `thor` or something or another but there is no documentation as to why it is called that and the people who were responsible for naming them so have already ridden into the sunset. If I ever meet him, I "just want to talk" to this CTO who named US East region 2 as "eu2".

zdragnar|2 months ago

The problem is that, in any organization past a few people, someone will eventually wonder if they were the inspiration for a particular name, and not in a good way, or someone might introduce politics or something else divisive.

It's better to have arbitrary names that are memorable in some way but not common enough to be associated with someone living within recent memory.

IMHO, YMMV, yada yada

striking|2 months ago

It's the sequel to EU. EU 2.

AtheistOfFail|2 months ago

> I "just want to talk" to this CTO who named US East region 2 as "eu2".

How? Logically I don't get it.

khannn|2 months ago

The only reason I can think of is to not duplicate AWS's "us-east-2" region name

minitech|2 months ago

> The tech industry loves to abstract away the human. Users become “MAUs.” Problems become “pain points.” Customers become “conversions.”

The LLM loves to torture concepts into statements with pithy veneers and three-item. Punctuated. Lists. “Pain points” as an example, really? All of these terms are just more specific than the ones they’re contrasted with, which don’t have much of a human element to them to begin with.

The irony of bemoaning this while AI-mimicking a team of people and getting a computer to write for you in its own voice…

hoppp|2 months ago

George, Ray, Agatha... Ok As long as you are the only one managing these systems. But the moment you involve other people, this is the worst naming possible.

handoflixue|2 months ago

If a new hire can handle "Talk to George, he's our security guy" then "Talk to George, it's our security LLM" shouldn't be that much harder?

taneq|2 months ago

I dunno, I think it works in any organisation small enough to only have a small number of any given thing. One you start having fleets of servers then you’ve got to switch to fleet naming.

fragmede|2 months ago

There are only two unsolved problems in computer science. Cache invalidation and naming things. And off-by-one errors.

GZGavinZhao|2 months ago

As the end of the article says, to the author this is more of a "ritual".

I don't know how effective it is, but I can't imagine this would undermine the quality of the output, so if it adds a little bit of humor and human-ness to my workflow, I'm happy to try it out.

ryze20245|2 months ago

> I added Helen to my roster just this week.

decotz|2 months ago

yeah. cringe. I debate with myself is this Aghata can truly be trusted to be > I need to find the secret traveling farther than it should, the data leaking where it shouldn’t, the assumption I made that an attacker won’t make. I need to be paranoid on behalf of the users whose data and trust I’m protecting.

at the end of the day its still an llm. but hey, I want to call Claude _Claudius_ all the time but I don't cause it'll shut me down real quick

4b11b4|2 months ago

I haven't written myself a Claude agent nor a skill nor a plugin yet, but when I do, I'm going to name it well.

As I've been asking Claude to "keep planning criticize ultrathink" very often and repeatedly, maybe I'll make a planning agent, one that helps me shepherd each plan well.

handoflixue|2 months ago

I'd be very curious to see what sort of code / prompting goes in to these agents, and what sort of results you see from them - is the name just a personal reminder, or do the LLM subagents incorporate these philosophies? What sort of behavioral changes do you see from this method?

orliesaurus|2 months ago

It's a good way to name your agents, who do they help/work for... Smart move

ChrisMarshallNY|2 months ago

Dehumanize humans, and humanize non-humans.

Makes sense to me…

But seriously, naming things is always a sticky wicket.

I tend to name my various devices as characters from Glen Cook’s The Black Company.

My iPhone is Thai Dei, my iPad is Soulcatcher, my Watch is Goblin, and my Mac is Mogaba. It helps me to keep them distinct from my simulators.

If I wanted really crazy names, I’d use Garret P.I. As a source.

loufe|2 months ago

First in-the-wild reference I've seen to some of my favourite books. I feel your watch as Goblin makes more sense if it's stuck around with you for a long time and generally works but is a bit of a pain to use. Thanks for the share.

peterldowns|2 months ago

Great books! Strongly recommend for anyone into fantasy stuff.

sverhagen|2 months ago

> This isn’t whimsy

Uh, yes it is? It's just whimsy with an explanation. Long live descriptive, preferably short, names.

handoflixue|2 months ago

It's also a reminder - we're not just here for the surface concept of X, we're here for the deeper philosophical reasons of Y and Z. The goal isn't to check off a "disability accessible" checkbox, it isn't even to "think how disabled people might use this" - it's to be actually accessible to all the actual people with actual disabilities.

Trust me, there are a a LOT of people who need this reminder.

I'd expect the difference in prompts produces significantly different LLM outputs, too - tell an LLM to check boxes and it won't show much initiative, but give it a philosophy and it will often suggest ideas you missed.