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qball | 2 months ago

Additionally, all ICE cars can charge from 0-100% in under 5 minutes. Even if their towing range was somehow less than an EV, it would matter less because you don't have to spend an hour at a charging station.

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tirant|2 months ago

With the difference that with an EV you always leave home with a full battery and you never have to step into a gas station unless you have a long trip ahead.

But even when you, the amount of time is not 60minutes. If you have kids, the time to go to the restroom, grab a coffee and come back is usually already around 20min, which tends to be enough to charge from 20-60% or even to 80% in newer vehicles. If you have a meal and take around 40minutes, you are probably already hitting 90% or higher.

bluGill|2 months ago

Towing is much more likely to imply long road trips. Not always but a lot of towing is getting to something farther away.

vel0city|2 months ago

> spend an hour at a charging station

This is exaggeration. A half hour for a well-loaded truck, sure, but an hour is generally exaggeration.

And as for five minutes for a fill up, it's usually more than five for a regular fill-up on a regular passenger car for me compared to just continuing on.

kakacik|2 months ago

Yeah 5 mins is not true, its 1 minute actual 'charging' as in refill from empty to full.

I don't know what your family does on the gas station, but my wife and 2 small kids can cover toilet visit (as long as there was no accident) for all 3 combined under 5 mins. So can I with paying, so at the end its 5 mins stop total all counted in. Eating as in lunch is once a day, and when we travel we certainly don't need restaurant experience of sitting around, quick sandwich is more than enough, driving on full stomach sucks anyway.

Never understood people loitering around gas stations for long time, but then again when we travel its often 500km or more, the typical trip cca 2x a year back home is 1500km.

EVs are not for us for quite some time, US EVs seemingly never.

throwaway-11-1|2 months ago

yeah for sure...in this shithole country thats true, China has 1,000-volt chargers which are basically as fast as filling a tank. Maybe the US will get something comparable by 2050, after Miami is 6ft under water

vel0city|2 months ago

There are 1,000V chargers all over the place in the US. All those 350kW chargers are rated for 1,000VDC output.