[reacharavindh]

Throwing stone from a glass box eh? If I understand correctly, US is by far the largest services exporter to EU… should EU merely apply the same “tariffs” that US might impose on these goods, some healthy European alternatives would finally gain some ground..

[whazor]

I think you can make a bigger list of US firms that are benefiting from EU laws, like Epic Games, Garmin, IBM, Oracle, Microsoft. But these companies are again also benefiting from maybe other American more established and US protected companies.

[shellwizard]

What alternatives to Microsoft, Google, IBM or AWS exist in Europe?

[input_sh]

None of those are products, those are companies that offers 100s of products.

The question is not is there as an alternative to Google-as-a-whole, but is there an alternative to Google Search (yes), to Google Analytics (yes), to Gmail (yes), to Google Ads (yes, but not really), to YouTube (no), and to Android (yes, but not really).

Having a European mega-company that offers 100s of tightly-integrated products shouldn't be the end goal, that's just swapping one monopoly with another. We need a healthly ecosystem where there are hundreds of separate companies each solving 1-5 use cases.

[McDyver]

You're actually making the exact point you want to attack.

That's why Europe needs that push to get their act together and start being self-sufficient, digital services-wise.

[nephihaha]

If these hadn't been allowed to emerge as monopolies we would have a wider selection.

[general1465]

A lot. Have a look: https://european-alternatives.eu/

[Imustaskforhelp]

I am not gonna comment about others since obviously there are a lot but OVH from europe even though it has flaws still feels like it definitely competes with AWS

There are also hetzner,upcloud,netcup and sooo many other small cloud providers too but OVH,Hetzner,Upcloud,netcup do seem to me competitors of AWS

[Europas]

Just running Infrastructure is easy enough. Everyone did it before, we still can do it.

Its practical to use GCP, Azure and AWS for sure but yeah they were always market dominant.

Its probably time to say good buy to an old ally who became demented and hostile to europe :(

[blibble]

create a innovation fund by taxing them

starting at 20%, increasing 1% each month until the "liberation day" tariffs are dropped

the innovation fund should be structured build up local competitors to US hyperscalers