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fl4tul4 | 2 months ago

The strange case of "TLA+" topics reaching HN's Front Page without any reason.

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baq|2 months ago

The reason is obvious - LLMs got good at writing them, initial cost to write went down 99%, toil to keep them up to date with code went down 99% and some people noticed. Value proposition went from ‘you must be joking unless we’re AWS and you’re proposing an IAM code change’ to ‘plan mode may also emit TLA+ spec as an intermediate implementation artifact’.

skydhash|2 months ago

Just like with code, the issue was never about writing a TLA+ spec. It was about writing a good TLA+ spec. Anyone can press a piano's key, but not everyone can write the Moonlight Sonata.

plainOldText|2 months ago

It's not strange at all.

The second story, and highly upvoted, on HN right now is: "AI will make formal verification go mainstream"[1].

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46294574

elcapitan|2 months ago

It's interesting btw that Martin Kleppmann lists a couple of proof assistants, but not model checkers like TLA+. With him working extensively on distributed systems, I would have thought that would be on the list as well.