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nevi-me | 2 months ago
I'm curious though, if someone has an ancient/niche architecture, what's the benefit of wanting newer kernels to the point where it'd be a concern for development?
I presume that outside of devices and drivers, there's little to no new developments in those architectures. In which case, why don't the users/maintainers of those archs use a pre-6.1 kernel (IIRC when Rust was introduced) and backport what they need?
testdelacc1|2 months ago
There’s an asymmetry in what the retro computing enthusiasts are asking for and the amount of effort they’re willing to put in. This niche hobby benefits from the free labour of open source maintaining support for their old architectures. If the maintainers propose dropping support because of the cost of maintenance the hobbyists rarely step up. Instead they make it seem like the maintainers are the bad guys doing a reprehensible thing.
You propose they get their hands dirty and cherry pick changes from newer kernels. But they don’t want to put in effort like that. And they might just feel happier that they’re using the “real” latest kernel.
unknown|2 months ago
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black_13|2 months ago
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yjftsjthsd-h|2 months ago
Wanting big fixes (including security fixes, because old machines can still be networked) and feature improvements, just like anyone else?
> I presume that outside of devices and drivers, there's little to no new developments in those architectures.
There's also core/shared features. I could very easily imagine somebody wanting eg. ebpf features to get more performance out of ancient hardware.
> In which case, why don't the users/maintainers of those archs use a pre-6.1 kernel (IIRC when Rust was introduced) and backport what they need?
Because backporting bits and pieces is both hard and especially hard to do reliably without creating more problems.