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sprash | 2 months ago

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CamouflagedKiwi|2 months ago

I've done a bit of work with Rust, and while I did find some of the complexity frustrating, it wasn't _that_ bad.

While I could sort of see some situation like you describe with a secret agenda from big tech, I think that probably requires significantly more cunning & organisation than they actually have around this stuff. It's not like Microsoft invented Rust - in fact it came from a relatively small corp in the first place.

sprash|2 months ago

It is irrelevant who invented Rust. The relevant fact is that it can be used as a tool to divide the community because of its very opinionated design. Systemd was equally opinionated and also caused huge division. Who is paying the bills of Poettering these days: Microsoft.

The Halloween documents show that Microsoft is playing these games for a long time now. Who knows in which way they have advanced their psyops. Just because we can't read their E-mails anymore doesn't mean they stopped doing it.

abelitoo|2 months ago

I found it highly complex, but chalked it up to my own unfamiliarity with both C and the rust language and what they are trying to accomplish.

I found C way more approachable and rust filled to the brim with more rabbit holes and "logical-in-their-own-world/reality" way.. but again, I believe that's due to my own inexperience. Truthfully, in 10 years when rust fervor has died down and it has become more normal, I could see people vomitting at the thought that rust was pushed into the kernel, and there to be a strong push for not removing it but rather simplifying the code somehow? I'll definitely be writing another handful of projects in rust again in the next couple of years though, I liked how my last ones ended up

0dayz|2 months ago

What project has been pushed to rewrite in rust that explicitly Microsoft has been the culprit in?

And not individuals who work at Microsoft does not count.

sprash|2 months ago

> And not individuals who work at Microsoft does not count.

How in the world does this not count? People act in the interest of those who pay the bills.