[EricRiese]

> The development of the first Loongson chip was started in 2001. The aim of the Godson project was to develop "high performance general-purpose microprocessors in China", and to become technologically self-sufficient as part of the Made in China 2025 plan.

-Wikipedia

Right on time

[messe]

Loongson (the company) have been around since 2001.

Loongarch (the ISA that debian is now supporting) has only been around since 2021. Previously Loongson used MIPS and another ISA known as LoongISA.

[anonnon]

> Loongson used MIPS

Stallman actually daily drove a Loongson MIPS-based notebook for a while.

[em500]

I thought they pivoted to RISC-V

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V#Strategic_background

[pantalaimon]

Nah it's much easier to move fast if you don't rely on a committee.

[mschuster91]

Well, that's what you get when you can do nation-state planning with an event horizon measured in decades, practically infinite cash and with the ruthlessness to engage in corporate espionage plus the total elimination of political campaigning (because you're the CCP, the only gang in town).

In contrast, Western corporate execs have an event horizon between "next quarterly reports" and "vesting/bonus period", additionally in any sufficiently large organizations you will have fiefdom fights that are counterproductive to the company at large, and Western politicians can only think to "next important election", so basically a few months as well because there is always an election going on in some state or local division.

We have gotten societally incompatible with not just coming up with new ideas, but with maintaining what we already have. It's like in 1984 - we can't even think of such timeframes any more.

And no, I'm not calling for a dictatorship. I'm rather calling for dissolution of the stock market for speculation, and for consolidating elections to once every four years so that politicians have time to cool down from the constant campaign hype pressure.

[messe]

> for consolidating elections to once every four years so that politicians have time to cool down from the constant campaign hype pressure.

You talk about "western" politicians, but this point feels like it only really applies to the US with its ridiculous two-year cycle.

[im3w1l]

> In contrast, Western corporate execs have an event horizon between "next quarterly reports" and "vesting/bonus period",

The big tech companies ran without profit for a long time. People worried a lot about that but they did it anyway.

[nektro]

> I'm rather calling for dissolution of the stock market for speculation

this would do so much untold good, i hope i live to see it