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black_knight | 2 months ago

Yes, but most mathematicians do not seem to make this distinction between sturdy and flimsy truths. Which puzzles me. Are they unaware? If so, would they care if educated? Or do they fully commit to classical logic and the axiom of choice if pushed? I can see it go either way, depending on the psychology of the individual mathematician.

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steppi|2 months ago

I don't think they usually make the distinction in a formal sense, but I think most are aware. The space of explorable mathematics is vastly larger than what the community of mathematicians is capable of collectively thinking about, so a lot of aesthetic judgment goes into deciding what is and what isn't interesting to work on. Mathematicians differ in their tastes too. A sense of sturdiness vs flimsiness is something that might inform this aesthetic judgment, but isn't really something most mathematicians would make part of the mathematics. Often, ones interest isn't the result itself, but some proof technique that brings some sense of insight and understanding, and exploring that often doesn't make much contact with foundational matters.

lanstin|2 months ago

No one not working on foundations has any problem with axiom of choice. It has weird implications but so what? Banach Tarski just means physical shapes aren't arbitrarily subdividable.

black_knight|2 months ago

Banach Tarski is not about physical shapes.

The thing is, the foundations negating axiom of choice are just as consistent as those with. So, how do mathematicians justify their faith in AC?