[AaronAPU]

But it is factually true that it’s a matter of willpower, no amount of reframing it is going to change that.

It’s not like others like myself, currently on a cut cycle, don’t experience hunger. The idea that we are just “lucky” ignores all the willpower and discipline we fight through to do it ourselves.

I’ve eaten about 800 calories today and it is 4pm. Just finished 90 minutes on the indoor bike. My stomach feels hungry. I experience that and just sit with it. That is the difference.

[manmal]

Congrats, your metabolism (FAO, gluconeogenesis, insulin sensitivity, …) works well. Don’t assume that’s the case for everyone, because it’s well researched that this is highly individual.

[paulpauper]

The ability to tolerate discomfort is probably as genetic/inante as metabolism.

[thefz]

Insulin sensitivity is made better or worse with diet alone

[AaronAPU]

You know nothing about my metabolism.

[3rodents]

People are different. Using your own achievements as evidence of other’s failings isn’t useful, we are all different. I can fast for 23 hours a day, 365 days a year (omad) with ease, not because I have more willpower than my fat friends, but because I’m different. My fat friends are objectively stronger and more resilient than me in almost every aspect of life, yet by your measure, because hunger doesn’t bother me, I have more willpower than them? Willpower isn’t measured on outcomes.

[XorNot]

On the one hand I'm impressed but 800 is really super low. I was losing about a kilo a week at the peak of my diet eating double that.

[thefz]

You can't make this point here without getting down voted to oblivion.

I know many ultra endurance runners and they are all in very good - healthy - shape. The only thing they all have in common is that they are very, very disciplined people.

[array_key_first]

> I know many ultra endurance runners and they are all in very good - healthy - shape. The only thing they all have in common is that they are very, very disciplined people.

Right, but are you not seeing that this is orthogonal?

Meaning, is it that running MAKES YOU disciplined, or rather that people who are already predisposed to being disciplined are more likely to be runners? This says nothing about the genetic component of it.

And you would have to be born yesterday to truly think there is no genetic component. Even with alcoholism, we know it's hereditary. We know when it comes to compulsions there is a genetic component. This is not opinion, this is fact. We know this.

But specifically with food habits, you truly believe this is not the case? Do you not see how incredibly bold of a claim that is? How atypical, how surprising, that would be?

I'm not saying that some people are blessed and some are not. Everyone has the power to change their lives. But I AM saying that it's not the same for everyone. From the beginning, I have known some things come easier to some people. I thought this was common knowledge, a part of the human condition we were all aware of.

[seba_dos1]

I don't think my ability to sit with hunger without fainting or experiencing massive headaches is due to my willpower. Fortunately, at least I'm not ignorant about it and don't write comments like yours.

[afavour]

How can you say that with any certainty, though? How do you know that hunger hits you in the exact same way it does another person? That overcoming it requires the exact same amount of willpower in all people?

[AaronAPU]

My hunger feels 8 trillion times worse than an obese person’s. Since I am making the claim, everyone else has to affirm it now.

[shadowpho]

>I experience that and just sit with it. That is the difference.

Other people might have it worse and it might stay with them longer.

Could you keep it up if you were 10x as hungry as you are now for next 5 years?

[DamnInteresting]

Oh, you can't reach the items on the higher grocery shelves no matter how hard you stretch? That's just a deficit of tall-power. I also experience items on high shelves. No, you shouldn't use a stepping stool to grab those items; just stretch more, and grow taller, like me! Look how good I am at being a bit taller than you! Your failure to be slightly taller is a character flaw, feel bad.

[array_key_first]

> But it is factually true that it’s a matter of willpower, no amount of reframing it is going to change that.

Okay... how?

You can't just make incredibly bold claims, say "it's a fact!" and then move on. No, you have to back them up otherwise you're just a bullshitter.

I don't know what other people, anyone else, is feeling. How do I know my hunger is their hunger?

[busyant]

What is your definition of willpower? What is it, mechanistically, that you have and others lack?

[toomuchtodo]

Willpower is just brain chemistry. Some are lucky, some are not.