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blitz_skull | 2 months ago

Explain like I’m stupid: what is the most gracious interpretation of redaction when releasing files like this?

Why should anyone involved retain any anonymity?

I’m asking in good faith because naively it seems like this should not even exist. All of it should be exposed.

EDIT: I did not think about the innocent folks that might be caught in the crossfire. That checks out. Thanks everyone!

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OsrsNeedsf2P|2 months ago

Iirc WikiLeaks took the position of any information that would directly lead to the bodily harm of an individual (or something to that effect). The rational being, "Yes, group A did something horrible that warrants investigation, but if we publish their GPS coordinates they will be blown to smitherines"

vlovich123|2 months ago

Unless those people impacted were friendly to US interests? if I recall correctly they published the names of collaborators and informants in Iraq. They also published military tactics that would help those trying to kill US soldiers. GPS coordinates by comparison generally go stale very quickly.

dragonwriter|2 months ago

There was, to say the least, not a specific law mandating release of the material held by WikiLeaks and specify what was to be, and what was not to be, redacted, so I don't see that as much of a guide here.

dragonwriter|2 months ago

The law mandating release requires redaction of victim identities, information relating to investigations that are still active, child sexual absue material, and information related to national security.

It generally prohibits other redactions, and expressly prohibits redactions for embarassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity.

Of course, there is considerable concern that the actual reactions do not appear to comply with the legal requirements.

supercheetah|2 months ago

FWIW, a lot of of the victims (possibly all) are saying they don't care about redactions if they end up being used to protect perpetrators. They want to make sure everyone is held accountable.

dragonwriter|2 months ago

https://abcnews.go.com/US/epsteins-alleged-victims-accuse-do...

Specifically, a number of Epstein victims have complained that the release was unacceptable because it was incomplete, illegally redacted material other than victim names which was not excepted from release under the law mandating release, and because it failed to redact victim identities required to be protected under the law mandating release.

krapp|2 months ago

Protecting the identity of victims, eyewitnesses or informants.

sawjet|2 months ago

Don't forget the co-conspirators!

empath75|2 months ago

The files of a high profile and long running investigation are going to be full of false leads, hoaxes and other bullshit. The reason they don’t just always release the files after closing cases is that there genuinely are going to he innocent people caught in the crossfire who have privacy rights.

This case is so important and such a clusterfuck that the files need to be opened anyway.

ozim|2 months ago

Person asking above question explains he doesn’t understand so I guess he also doesn’t understand prosecutors, lawyers, law enforcement, judges make mistakes.

So yes this is best explanation. Revealing everything might bring great harm to innocent people just because they were somehow mentioned in the documents.

Just add all the experience we already have with “internet investigators” that ruin people lives for petty reasons.