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Ultra-Wide Band: A Transformational Technology for the Internet of Things

12 points| fzliu | 2 months ago |eetimes.com

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djoldman|2 months ago

These seem like great examples of features with minuscule benefits on average:

> Imagine:

> Your thermostat adjusting the temperature automatically as you enter the room.

> Your TV resuming your favorite show that you were watching yesterday as you sit on the couch

> Your car door automatically opening when approach the vehicle and adjusting its seat position and temperature based on your preferences

The vast majority of people want a thermostat that maintains a constant temperature everywhere.

Clicking one or two buttons to resume a TV show is minor.

Pulling the handle on a door and pressing a preset seat position button is a minor inconvenience if that.

Add the above to the possibly flawed assumption that folks may not actually want the automatic behavior makes the "value" negative in some cases.

None of this is worth internet connectivity.

The driver pushing this is that internet connectivity enables data collection that can be sold.

Spooky23|2 months ago

It’s minor but can improve user experience if implemented well. I know several people who scoffed at the “need” for automation in car locking and unlocking. It just feels like the obvious way now.

Another use case would be access control in buildings. There are millions of insecure iClass type cards securing doors and elevators that would be easily and securely replaced by tech like this.

Another scenario is getting census/surveillance capability for security and evacuation.

Another is emergency response. If the tech was in a phone, integrate with 911 to find where a cell call originated within a campus or facility. I worked a project in an office complex where we worked with the fire department to improve response time. The Fire Department response was 5 minutes, but locating a caller in our facility could take 7-10 without a guide. In some cardiac scenarios, every minute without treatment reduces survival probability by 10%. You can easily cut that time by 50-75% if you know exactly where you are going.

In the case of that project, we deployed AED devices, created and drilled procedures for reporting emergencies (with a bias for using house or desk phones) we also required a buddy system for most after hours access. I think it lowered the average drilled response by 30-40%. That paid off when a vendor CE had a heart attack during a service event. Without that system, he would have almost certainly died. Very few companies have that kind of safety culture and budget so tech can have a huge impact.

victorbjorklund|2 months ago

You don’t need internet for this. You can just use Home Assistant with all data locally.

api|2 months ago

I always have the cynical take that the real feature is “more spying on users and more opportunities to make features pointlessly require a subscription.” The seemingly minor or pointless benefits are just to get the stuff out there.

jauntywundrkind|2 months ago

I do love the idea of a good medium bandwidth proximity based protocol that has very low latency. 802.15.4z goes 2.4Mb/s but proprietary UWB in the same domain goes up to 64Mb/s which becomes more interesting.

10cm is pretty good positional accuracy too, albeit it feels perhaps short of what we'd need for great pose tracking. To me it's fun to consider what a smart home that can better project it's own digital twin. Also useful data for AR & spatial computing.

For anyone else following Mouser new product feel, I think the arrival of Qorvo'a newest Qorvo QM35825 RF SoC was a very fun arrival to see. https://www.mouser.com/new/qorvo/qorvo-qm35825-uwb-low-power...

I do wish that high bandwidth UWB was doing better. I really like the idea of a wireless dock, being able to plug in USB devices and get good bandwidth and especially low latency. I'm not super keyed in to what's happening in VR headset space but they seem to be the only folks using high speed UWB at all these days. WiGig / 802.11ad I hope we see you again!

This is wandering really far afield from the topic at hand, but should out to FluxPosez which is trying to build short range pose trackers using magnetic sensing. Seems really neat too. https://www.fluxpose.com/

bethekidyouwant|2 months ago

UWB seems a bad name for something that appears to be used for location a-la IEEE 802.15.4z. The dev boards are still pretty pricey from what I see.

lawlessone|2 months ago

>UWB is a premium technology for precise and secured ranging.

Doesn't that depend on how you use it? it's just a frequency band.

mzajc|2 months ago

This is very light on information and very full of praise.

ris|2 months ago

Infineon sales piece.