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mxuribe | 2 months ago

I also wanted - and still want - matrix to succeed! But, i've also semi-given up. I still use it because there a small number of folks i still chat with; though that's dying off. I managed a synapse home server very early in matrix's life, for a few years, and yeah it was complex back then...and for me the security is fine. Sure, there are gaps and things to be address for security...but, overall the thing that grinds my gears are the heavy resources needed. I started returning to xmpp. Is xmpp "simpler" or "more secure"? I would reply: no. But, you know where xmpp is really great? Ridiculously low needs for resources for a server! I understand that in this day and age we have far more access to so much more computing power...But, why should we allow bloat just because we can? Sorry, nowadays if I'm just trying to provide for chat, I'm looking into xmpp. I have no experience with simplex, but i think i'll wait til it bakes a bit more (and also see the resources usage story in a year or so).

Its funny, I was such a matrix fan boy, and now i'm looking at a chat tech (xmpp) that has been around for tons of years - figure that!

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Jnr|2 months ago

At this point I just want them to die off completely so we could get something better. They have been unable to make real improvements that make using Matrix a nice experience. And their existence somehow inhibits other solutions from emerging in the OSS community chat space.

Arathorn|2 months ago

> And their existence somehow inhibits other solutions from emerging in the OSS community chat space.

How?

inferiorhuman|2 months ago

As someone who wants to care not at all about the implementation details: last week I tried to sign up and use Matrix. I just want it to die.

It's got all the downsides of both centralized and distributed chat systems. Matrix.org didn't have the username I wanted so I went through four different home servers before giving up.

Tried to install a cli app (Weechat). Homebrew wanted four or five scripting languages, a spell checker, and still no Matrix plugin (need to install an abandoned C library for that and then wrangle python). The web app is shit. I get hijacking Cmd+K (and despise it), but it also hijacks Cmd+`.

Makes me miss IRC really.