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LeoWattenberg | 2 months ago

> They just surveyed some college students and drew conclusions by running statistical analyses on the data until they got something that seemed significant.

Is this just cynicism or based on anything? From reading the methods section it doesn't appear this is what happened

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Aurornis|2 months ago

From the paper:

> Methods:

> We used a mixed methods approach. First, qualitative data were collected through 41 exploratory, in-depth interviews (women: n=19, 46.3%; men: n=21, 51.2%; prefer not to disclose sex: n=11, 2.4%; mean age 22.51, SD 1.52 years) with university students who had experience playing Super Mario Bros. or Yoshi. Second, quantitative data were collected in a cross-sectional survey…

So interviews with a biased sample (students with experience playing the game) and then a survey.

Also, try adding up those n= numbers. They don’t sum to 41. The abstract can’t even get basic math or proofreading right.

If the body of the paper describes something different than the abstract, that’s another problem

EDIT: Yes, I know the n=11 was supposed to be an n=1. Having a glaring and easily caught error in the abstract is not a good signal for the quality of a paper. This is on the level of an undergraduate paper-writing exercise, not a scientific study as people are assuming.

nebezb|2 months ago

Seems like n=11 should have been n=1. Use 19, 21, and 1 as a numerator of /41 and you end up with all the same percentages written in the abstract. A typo that should have been caught, but surely nothing more than that and certainly not substantive enough to qualify the claim below:

> This paper is very bad. The numbers in the abstract don’t even add up, which any reviewer should have caught.

smallerize|2 months ago

It looks like "prefer not to disclose sex" was typoed and should be 1 instead of 11.

gs17|2 months ago

It does seem to be cynicism, they're convinced the authors "gave people surveys with a lot of questions and then tried to find correlations in the data", but nothing indicates they did more than the 9 questions (plus one more for sex as a control) the paper includes, and restricted it to only Mario/Yoshi players. Ten questions is pretty short.

Aurornis|2 months ago

> and restricted it to only Mario/Yoshi players.

Do you not see the problem with drawing conclusions from a sample set that pre-selects for Mario/Yoshi players?

How do you think they’re determining that playing Mario/Yoshi prevents burnout if they only surveyed Mario/Yoshi players?

I really don’t understand all of the push to support this paper and disregard critiques as cynicism. The paper is not a serious study, or even a well written paper. Is it a contrarian reflex to deny any observations about a paper that don’t feel positive or agreeable enough?