[gramie]

Without government interference, someone who is stronger/more brutal than you can kill you and take your property, partner, and anything else they like. It is in the top 10 in the world for homicides.

Haiti is a horrifying place to live, for most people. The UN says that 85% of the capital is controlled by gangs, and they are spreading out into the rest of the country.

[ivell]

> Without government interference, someone who is stronger/more brutal than you can kill you and take your property, partner, and anything else they like.

I cannot understand how people can idealize anarchy. It is as if they read some cool novel and believe that a world without functioning government is going to be something comfortable and safe.

[AngryData]

To be devil's advocate, a lot of peoples problems, especially in the US, is from the government. If you get a few years in jail for drug possession, or lose your license because some cop claimed you were high even though you haven't smoked in 12 hours, or they seize your cash or possessions over dubious civil forfeiture laws, or one of any number of other things, the government is your biggest problem and the simplest but naive solution is to eliminate government.

It isn't very forward thinking, but most people are mostly concerned with their immediate problems, not indirect problems that would take decades to culminate afterwards. US governmental problems are now, the problems of potential anarchy are a long ways down the road.

[qgin]

I think we could probably lighten up on zoning without going full mad max warlord anarchy in every way

[LenaRyouna]

Even with government interference, this is possible. That is why anyone with substantial wealth or influence should first focus on acquiring the necessary weapons and manpower to defend their property.

Having anything will automatically paint a target on anyone's back.

[m4ck_]

I'm sure you're aware we can address zoning and other regs that drive prices up, without going full Haiti. Replace Haiti with any country where people live on a tiny fraction of what we do in the US, and it still makes sense.