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I sell onions on the Internet (2019)

496 points| sogen | 2 months ago |deepsouthventures.com

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bencornia|2 months ago

> The way Faulkner treats his characters, I treat domain name projects. I buy them with an intention to develop. And I let them take the lead. They’re the inspiration for the business itself. They guide me towards what they need to become. I’m just the dude behind the keyboard (sorta).

I feel the same way about personal projects and blogs. A good idea tends to be self-reinforcing. It just needs someone to uncover it. Selling onions on the internet seems unusual but to the right person that idea is gold.

voidfunc|2 months ago

I buy domains and then forget about them only to renew them once a year for aspirational reasons.

Its kinda like seeing my family at Christmas once a year.

BrtByte|2 months ago

I like how you put it: uncovering rather than creating

Fiveplus|2 months ago

The internet was originally promised as a way to disintermediate these kinds of supply chains, yet we often ignore these "boring" businesses for hype trains. The fact that he added a phone number and it sometimes out-sells the website is the cherry on top.

chrneu|2 months ago

I've found more and more often the last few years that a lot of the long time businesses I use still do most of their ordering by phone. Or some version that involves talking to actual person.

The restaurants I go to still generally do phone ordering because they care about the quality of their ingredients. They want to discuss and talk about it with someone before placing an order.

The engineering and consulting firms I work with are the same. The engineers I enjoy working with are all phone based, not a lot of emails unless there are details involved.

I'm a bit of the same way. There is a lot of peripheral information that we miss out on when everything is done via automation/email. Those dead moments when our brains wander, then we ask a silly question, tend to bear fruit.

It's gotten to the point where I generally don't order anything online anymore because I can't trust I'll get what I ordered. When I have to deal with support it's an automated system that only gives me 1 or 2 options, neither of which satisfy my needs so I have to make a compromise. I'm not interested.

markerz|2 months ago

re: the phone number

Businesses really underestimate how much having a human representative helps customers feel connected to a business. I see it in corporate sales (B2B) where accounts are pretty much tied to the account manager. When the manager leaves, the companies refuse to renew because the account was only good because of the manager.

I think of my favorite businesses I regularly visit and they all have a memorable face to them. I feel more than a consumer. They help me understand the product and guide my decision making. They tell me when my order doesn’t make sense. And they refer me to other places they recommend. Or they tell me my problem is real and a mess, but assure me they’ll fix it.

You don’t get that with AI chat bots.

BrtByte|2 months ago

This feels like the internet doing the thing it was supposed to do, not the thing it currently gets most of the attention for

eightturn|2 months ago

author here : ) happy to answer questions if you have any. We also have a twitter account here if you want to follow along: https://x.com/vidaliaonions

jmkd|2 months ago

I live in a mountain valley in Mallorca where hundreds of tons of perfect Canoneta oranges fall to the floor and rot each year because the cost of picking them outweighs their market value. The valley became wealthy from this fruit in the 19th century but the economics no longer add up. [0]

At the same time the price of orange juice (elsewhere) has skyrocketed [1], yet this rural community seems unable to take advantage.

What would you do?

[0] https://ruralhotelsmallorca.com/guides/The-History-of-Soller... [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c397n3jl3z8o

kfk|2 months ago

How would you market such a business in 2026? I am from an Italian region where farmer grow many special coltures, and I was always a bit surprised why they don’t try selling on the internet. I ended up convincing myself it is not a viable business model.

busymom0|2 months ago

Is your website accessible over the onion network by Tor?

edm0nd|2 months ago

Is anyone really getting into trouble growing Vidalia onions not in Georgia?

Like if I plant some in my yard and start selling them online or at the local farmers market, what is anyone really going to do?

Seems kinda weird they have a government granted monopoly on them.

Breza|1 month ago

Huge fan here! I read the article when it was new and was enamored with the story. I ordered a small box. The onions were terrific. So I order a large box every year.

ex-aws-dude|2 months ago

Just curious do you make a living primarily from this or is it more just a side income?

mattmaroon|2 months ago

I guess my question is: why is this better for me the customer than just buying them at my local supermarket? The shipping must make them very expensive, relative to my store. Are they that much better onions?

phl|2 months ago

just came here to say that this has been one of my favorite pieces of writing i came across on hn ever (i read it back in 19)

stephenlf|2 months ago

Absolutely insane way to start a business. “Let me blow 2 grand on a domain name. Not sure what it’s for, yet.”

chrneu|2 months ago

I've been doing some version of this since college. ...holy shit that's almost 20 years.

It started as a bit of a joke on the "That's a good band name" line. It became "That's a good domain name". Yes, I went to a stem college.

Anyway, i've started 4 pretty decent businesses based entirely off that bit. My friends and I would be riffing out behind the pizza place/bar we frequented, someone would say something and then "That's a good domain name" comes out. I'd make a quick note and think about it for a few days. I found that if I come back to it after a week or so then it's maybe worth something.

Business and domain names can make or break a company.

On top of all that, i've also bought and then sold hundreds of domains for a profit based off this bit. I use various registars when they have sales, buy em up cheap for a few years, then park em.

After reading the OP, it's kinda funny. I did something similar with a garlic grower back in the early 00's. I had a domain, my brother worked for a garlic farmer, the farmer wanted to export to asia. It worked out well for a few years.

odie5533|2 months ago

I wonder if the sunk cost worked in his favor here. If he'd only spent ten dollars on the domain, he probably would have built nothing.

chiefalchemist|2 months ago

“ The way Faulkner treats his characters, I treat domain name projects. I buy them with an intention to develop. And I let them take the lead. They’re the inspiration for the business itself. They guide me towards what they need to become. I’m just the dude behind the keyboard (sorta).”

To me it makes sense. Without a domain name, it’s just an idea. The domain name makes it real, and it’s a foundation the biz can stand on. Too many people try to start a biz without a foundation.

arraypad|2 months ago

I've hung on to spellign.com for a bit over twenty years now. Creation Date: 2005-10-19T05:59:21Z

The name still makes me giggle. I'd love to build something relevant and silly enough to put there, but I haven't found it yet.

Suggestions are welcome! :)

eightturn|2 months ago

author here... in my defense, it was an accidental purchase : ) I thought it was gonna sell for $5k or more... but the music stopped when I bid ...

cultofmetatron|2 months ago

been sitting on fullstackjavascript.com for years. been too busy writing javascript to do anything with it and now I work almost exclusively in elixir.

LunaSea|2 months ago

I wonder how you can then produce onions as a side business.

jliptzin|2 months ago

Not really sure what's so crazy about that. A brick and mortar shop will spend way more than that on renting a good location for their business when they have no clue whether they'll turn a profit. This is just the digital equivalent of that. People trust authoritative domains like vidaliaonions.com way more than something like vidaliaonions-direct.net and they're given more SEO weight as well. At least I know that used to be true; not sure how true that is today but I'd imagine it still is.

breadchris|2 months ago

This feels like a relevant wiki page to mention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion_Futures_Act

Breza|1 month ago

I wonder how aggressively this would be enforced. Like, if this website let people place an order a year in advance for a specific price, would the regulators come knocking?

bigstrat2003|2 months ago

Very interesting page, left me with a lot of mixed feelings after I read it. First, it seems like the biggest issue was not onion futures per se, but manipulating the market. It seems like banning onion futures was just a band-aid while ignoring the true cause. Second, if it really is the case that onions' perishable nature caused the problem, why not at least extend the ban to all similarly perishable products? Again it seems like they attacked the symptom rather than the root cause. But those criticisms aside, I kind of love that the government back then was willing to shut down shady money making schemes from finance bros. That would never happen in America today, so that part was pretty cool.

Brajeshwar|2 months ago

This is one of those articles that pops up here once every few years, and I love it every time. I love these stories of low-hanging, boring businesses that succeed in simple, yet strange and satisfying ways.

And of course, this helps me continue, like many others, to go domain-first on ideas that sound good at interesting times. I have enough domains to be ashamed of in numbers, but I will continue to register more, as more ideas hit me in the shower and on my walks. My wife has seen me walk out of the shower halfway more often than not to check availability and register domains. I’ve also had my share of well-sold domain names, so I don’t regret my hobby/obsession.

davchana|2 months ago

I have registered a one domain bydav in my cctld, and now all of my future apps are like timer.bydav.cctld

tomrod|2 months ago

What a cool story. Not tech for tech's sake, but tech that grows into something simpler, more efficient, and more world-opening for something as wonderful as the Vidalia onion

j-krieger|2 months ago

> but for kicks & giggles, I dropped in a bid around $2,200 ’cause I was confident I’d be outbid

Boy do I wish I could just drop 2k on a whim for a vanity project

pinkmuffinere|2 months ago

Not to minimize the amount (2k is a lot), or obligations you may have (family, etc), but sometimes you can change your life in small ways to make those sort of impulse buys more affordable. Renting a room instead of a house, buying an old used car instead of new, etc. These kinds of changes are (to me) a small inconvenience, with big rewards

chairmansteve|2 months ago

A lot of people pay a lot more than that for vanity vehicles, kitchens etc

rdtsc|2 months ago

> Some folks can eat them like an apple. Most of my customers do.

My grandfather and my cousin, who he pretty much raised were eating regular red or yellow onions like apples like that. I had never seen anyone else do that. They would make an onion "salad" which was just cut up onion with olive oil and salt.

ohyoutravel|2 months ago

Got these many years back after having been posted here. Very happy with the purchase, but wouldn’t order again as my wife hated the smell. Highly recommended everyone order these at least once.

Forgeties79|2 months ago

I love how I came into this thread going “it would be fun if this was actually about onions, but it is probably something about Tor” but was wrong!

reactordev|2 months ago

Sometimes you start a business. Sometimes a business starts you. Awesome that the author saw this as an opportunity and not a down side to owning a name he never really wanted to begin with.

Sometimes the right business just finds you and you’re at the right place at the right time to see it.

MagicMoonlight|2 months ago

This is the kind of thing I’d like to do. I have so many ideas, but I’m not sure how to actually make them happen.

How much money does it take to start something like this?

BrtByte|2 months ago

I love the inversion of the usual startup narrative: domain first, idea second; purpose first, scale later (maybe never)

pranavm27|2 months ago

I rabbitholed into that another essay of buying domain names. The author juggles ideas by domain name. I have one called Banadana Girl .in and I was like sell bandanas lol - gotta check now the TAM for bandanas in india with women as TM. Give me ideas folks. Do you know of a bandana expert?

ciconia|2 months ago

> Them: We leverage automated machine learning to enhance your existing BI visualizations with more proactive insights

> Me: I sell onions on the internet

That's exactly how I feel about AI! Instead of all that useless nonsense, just keeping it real, doing something that's actually useful for individuals and for society.

pottertheotter|2 months ago

This crosses from quirky to unhinged:

During a phone order one season – 2018 I believe – a customer shared this story where he smuggled some Vidalias onto his vacation cruise ship, and during each meal, would instruct the server to ‘take this onion to the back, chop it up, and add it onto my salad ‘.

bell-cot|2 months ago

Eccentric at most. Unhinged would be chopping it yourself, at the table, with a Civil War cavalry sabre.

liteclient|2 months ago

I also recently bought liteclient.com just because it was available. Finally, decided to create a vs code extension around it; I don't even know how to make one but learnt so much in the past few weeks :)

jrecyclebin|2 months ago

Great advertising for vidalias. I simply have to try one now.

chrneu|2 months ago

They're really good. The apple thing is no joke. Vidalia and Walla-Walla onions are top tier alliums.

eightturn|2 months ago

author here.. our Vidalia season usually starts in late April - FYI. If you visit our website, submit your email there and I'll drop you a note when our order lines are open.

whoamii|2 months ago

Good luck finding them anywhere right now

petterroea|2 months ago

If I could run a few services like this that just provide useful and predictable services to a community of people I'd be perfectly happy with my life

zkmon|2 months ago

That's very interesting. My domain purchased in 2015, finally seems to make some meaning due to recent tech advacnes. Time to do something with it.

Imustaskforhelp|2 months ago

What's the domain name if I may ask?

vednig|2 months ago

I love this guy's marketing honest and compelling

rootusrootus|2 months ago

I love onions, but never tried a Vidalia. We have Walla Walla sweet onions out here and I suspect they’re pretty similar.

devilbunny|2 months ago

They’re similar enough that my aunt, who has lived in the PNW for ages, but grew up in the South, described Walla Wallas as “basically just like a Vidalia, but grown here”.

There’s nothing particularly special about the onion variety - it’s just a mild yellow onion. It’s the soil.

robofanatic|2 months ago

I bought djangosquare.com with exactly the same thought a year ago and till today I haven’t done anything with it!

b800h|2 months ago

Do people still buy domain names and build businesses around them?

lgvld|2 months ago

Very probably.

I am also curious to know wether a domain name still confers a solid advantage. Now that so many people use social networks like Instagram, does (the SEO or domain name, etc. of) your website remain a critical part of the process?

Actually the SEO plays an important role in some areas, for sure.

stevefan1999|2 months ago

okay, at first I thought you are selling Tor access or vanity hidden service domains as Tor stands for The Onion Router, but it turns out you are selling real onions

qwm|2 months ago

I wonder what this guy would think of what I'm doing with poop.net

tantalor|2 months ago

It's kind of funny this guy doesn't understand his own business.

It's not onions. It's lead generation.