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farmin | 2 months ago

I am giving my MacBook Air M2 15” to my wife and bought a Lenovo E16 with 120hz screen to run Kubuntu last night. She needed a new laptop and I am had enough of macOS and just need some stuff to work that will be easier on an intel and Linux. Also I do bookwork online so bigger screen and dedicated numpad will be nice. It reviews well and seems like good value for money with current holiday sales but I don’t expect the same hardware quality or portability just a little more freedom. I hope I’m not too disappointed. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-E16-G3-Review-...

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heavyset_go|2 months ago

If you're running desktop Linux, you will have a better experience with a rolling release than being stuck with whatever state the software that was frozen in Debian/Ubuntu is in, especially when it comes to multimedia, graphics, screen sharing, etc.

Modern desktop Linux relies on software that's being fixed and improving at a high velocity, and ironically, can be more stable than relying on a distro's fixed release cycles.

KDE Plasma, Wayland support, Pipewire, etc all have had recent fixes and improvements that you will not get to enjoy for another X months/years until Canonical pulls in those changes and freezes them for release.

Similarly, newer kernels are a must when using relatively recent hardware. Fixes and support for new hardware lands in new kernels, LTS releases might not have the best support for your newer hardware.

akdev1l|2 months ago

> can be more stable than relying on a distro's fixed release cycles

Stability for a distro means “doesn’t change” not “doesn’t crash”.

Debian/ubuntu are stable because they freeze versions so you can even create scripts to work around bugs and stuff and be sure that it will keep working throughout that entire release.

Arch Linux is not stable because you get updates every day or whatever. Maybe you had some script or patch to work around a bug and tomorrow it won’t work anymore.

This does not say _anything_ about crashing or bugs, except that if you find a bug/crash on a stable system then it is likely you can rely on this behaviour.

cromka|2 months ago

> you will have a better experience with a rolling release than being stuck with whatever state the software that was frozen in Debian/Ubuntu is in

That's a wild statement!

farmin|2 months ago

That’s interesting comment. I didn’t think about that. I’ve only ever used Ubuntu flavours so I’ll search through what the popular rolling releases are out of interest.

kcb|2 months ago

I just upgrade Ubuntu every 6 months. To me that's a pretty good compromise between up to date packages and stability.

kombine|2 months ago

I would recommend Fedora KDE Edition over Kubuntu, but I guess it's a personal choice.

farmin|2 months ago

I’ve only ever used Ubuntu flavours but maybe I should give it a try. Thanks

650REDHAIR|2 months ago

I outfitted our 10 person team with the E16 g2 and it’s been great.

Two minor issues- it’s HEAVY compared to T models.

Because of the weight try not to walk around with the lid up and holding it from one of front corners. I’ve noticed one of them is kind of warped from walking around the office holding it that way.

farmin|2 months ago

That’s great news thanks. I got the gen 3 so maybe some improvements. Weight is ok as I really just move it around the house. I buy used Panasonics for the workshop.

Are you running windows?

lostlogin|2 months ago

> I’ve noticed one of them is kind of warped from walking around the office holding it that way.

That’s not at all reassuring.

RamRodification|2 months ago

Kubuntu is nice. Not sure why it's not more popular. Or maybe it's just a quieter user base?

arcade79|2 months ago

Been a kubuntu user since .. 2006? 2007? Don't remember when kubuntu became a thing, but as soon as I tried Ubuntu, I went kubuntu. I believe it was 5.10 or 6.04 or something. :-)

Am growing tired of Ubuntu though. Just not sure where I should turn. I want a .deb based system. Ubuntu is pushing snaps too heavily for my liking.

fylo|2 months ago

I liked Ubuntu and variants back when it first came out and I was newer to Linux but it didn't take long for me to realise there always seemed to be a better option for me as a daily driver. To me its like an new Linux user OS where a lot of stuff is chosen for you to use basically as is. Even the name Kubuntu where the K is for KDE but on other distros you would just choose your DE when you install.

farmin|2 months ago

I agree. It feels like combination of peak windows UI with the ease of Ubuntu baked in. Then the little mobile app they have that gives you shared clipboard with iOS is cool.

speed_spread|2 months ago

Also consider Kinoite, the immutable Fedora KDE (like Silverblue). Very effective and robust.

kwanbix|2 months ago

If I was you I will have gone for the T or X series

farmin|2 months ago

Why?