[design2203]

Anything that is core to the function and well being of a state, being owned by a foreign nation poses a national security risk.

The U.K. has been stripped and laid bare of its assets since the era of privatisation. The U.K. needs to wake up and start innovating to take back control.

[LightBug1]

>>Anything that is core to the function and well being of a state, being owned by a foreign nation poses a national security risk.

You mean like water? ... I believe we're the only 'developed' country in the world to have sold off / privatised it's water.

It's all we do. Sell our country down the river for the benefit of a few wankers.

I signed up to the link in the original post, but don't have that much hope. We'll sell our grandma if it'll mean we get a 50p voucher or save 2 more minutes of our day.

[design2203]

Yes that’s exactly what I mean.

I’m working on stuff that I can’t say too much about. But let’s just say there is a way out from this - but it will require the smartest minds and folks starving for change to come together and create the change we want. Sometimes an environment that creates a desperate need for change can be a good thing.

It’s not going to happen via politics. It has to come by being creative from the outside in.

[thebruce87m]

> You mean like water? ... I believe we're the only 'developed' country in the world to have sold off / privatised it's water.

Wasn’t it both England and Wales?

[franktankbank]

I think the only reason this is done is because we are in an era of exceptional illegal kickbacks. Unethical/illegal behavior has become so normalized that if you aren't actively working for a party who is doing it/doing it yourself you are losing.

[Flere-Imsaho]

Our whole tech stack is foreign owned and built. Everything from the CPU to the operating system and more. We live in a globalised system and there's no undoing that. The very idea of "nation" is being challenged.

To me the NHS is a hang-over from the 20th century, out of date and struggling to keep up. A new system of health care needs to take over. I'm not smart enough to know what that is, but I hope it happens soon.

[giardini]

Democratic governments should not provide health care.

Politicians quickly learn to use government services/"rights" as a means of dividing and controlling the population. Instead of thinking about the survival of the nation, people focus on personal survival (e.g., should I vote to live another three years or help pay for a new weapon system?). To provide healthcare is akin to weighing the nations' pancreas on a balance scale against, for example, the Navy. What kind of a country is that? (Ans. "Almost every developed nation today!-(")

I believe the term for this is "incommensurability". Whilst money seems to make everything "commensurable" at first glance, it is a mistake to extend the application of money in this manner to government-provided healthcare.

https://healthcarereaders.com/insights/healthcare-fundamenta...

[re-thc]

> The U.K. needs to wake up and start innovating to take back control.

That's a nice dream.

[design2203]

Hopefully I can reply back to you in 2 years and laugh :)

[afavour]

It’s not impossible. The UK has a rich history of tech innovation but it’s long since been eclipsed by Silicon Valley and its funding (which the UK can only dream of).

But the UK government's GDS team is a fantastic example of doing tech right in government. I can see an expanded government involvement in tech for bodies like the NHS that is a clear alternative to the Silicon Valley model. The salaries would never reach US levels but could still afford a very comfortable life.

Problem is that it would require the government to spend money on itself and its employees, which successive governments are loathe to do because the press will punish them for it every time.