[konradha]

I do hope that sufficient humiliation will suffice for DB leadership to enact harsh measures. German precision and punctuality are still there in its people. It's not lost yet.

[r9295]

This has been the case since I moved to Germany, 6 years ago. National humiliation is apparently an insufficient detterent.

[konradha]

The millstones of the gods grind late, but they grind well. It depends where you're from -- there is always potential for dramatic change in a people as obedient as the German.