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UberFly | 2 months ago

Except for the late night home raids rooting out "hate speech". Opposite of chill.

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nosianu|2 months ago

Just for anyone new here, if you have comments like this, please be specific and post something a neutral person can verify and form their own opinion on. Don't just post silly one-liners that don't have any real content.

This would have been a concrete example, where a government minister abused the system because a tweet annoyed him: https://theweek.com/news/world-news/954635/willygate-german-...

spit2wind|2 months ago

I'll also take the bait. As far as I understand it, these rules come, fundamentally, from the German Basic Law which was drafted, in part, with direct support from the US after the war. There's certainly always room for healthy debate about what is meant by freedom of speech. But it strikes me as ignorant to come from a US "absolutist" perspective and not understand the history (of US involvement). No clue if the poster is approaching it from that perspective; I'm trying to raise the point of historical context in response to the category of such responses I've encountered.

sho_hn|2 months ago

I'll take the bait because I'm annoyed by the boiling-frog aspect to vaguely alluding to things.

Here's the press release on this:

https://www.bka.de/DE/Presse/Listenseite_Pressemitteilungen/...

tl;dr Since in Germany it is illegal to e.g. make public postings calling for the rape of women or share video footage of women being murdered and tortured for the purpose of entertainment and gloating, one day ahead of International Womens Day police staged a big showy series of raids on individuals doing such things, to make a point and call attention to the issue.

Sounds like an excellent use of my tax money, to be honest, but it was certainly controversial also in Germany.

on_the_train|2 months ago

It is also illegal to share crime statistics or make jokes about politicians

pembrook|2 months ago

Hrmmm, German supports using the monopoly on violence given to the state to make raids on people who make undesirable social media posts.

There’s only one problem. Whos to say you won’t be the next target if the political climate shifts to cracking down on pro-censorship voices like yourself?

Will you think its still a good use of your tax money when the opposition is putting you in a police car for this exact HN comment?