[nik282000]

Anna's Archive and Sci-Hub. So despite their facade the German government is just as draconian as the US.

[dewey]

The main complaint about these blocks is that they are managed and decided on by private companies and _not_ by the government / law.

[dark-star]

they are still optional for the ISPs though. But if they don't implement them, they will have dozens of lawsuits to handle, that is why many ISPs say "fuck it" and just implement the blocks, to save money on their legal team

[fuzzy2]

The government or even courts are not involved with these blocks.

[crazygringo]

Despite what facade?

[easterncalculus]

The frequently repeated keystone lie that Europeans have equivalent or greater rights, freedoms, and protection from authoritarianism than Americans, which is and has always been objectively and completely false.

[oezi]

Is it draconian that piracy sites aren't resolved by some ISPs' DNS?

Is it draconian if no Government entity is involved? And the penalty is unavailability?

I thought draconian implies that the punishment is much too high in relationship to the crime.

Maybe the whole affair is more dystopian rather than draconian: ISPs block access to media even though no law or government asked them to just so they have less hassle with rightholders.

[almostgotcaught]

> German government is just as draconian as the US

this is called "disinformation"

[pessimizer]

Will Germany be banning HN for not deleting it and sentencing nik282000 to a prison term then?

[like_any_other]

They are considering banning the largest opposition party, are using wiretaps and informants against it [1], have banned (ban since lifted) a magazine [2], and opened a criminal investigation into someone calling a fat politician fat online [3]. They are openly planning even worse [4] (if you dislike the author, keep in mind every claim is sourced, so take it up with the sources).

[1] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/5/13/court-confirms-germ...

[2] https://www.dw.com/en/germany-compact-press-freedom-right-wi...

[3] https://www.foxnews.com/media/germany-started-criminal-inves...

[4] Germany announces wide-ranging plans to restrict the speech, travel and economic activity of political dissidents, in order to better control the "thought and speech patterns" of its own people - https://www.eugyppius.com/p/germany-announces-wide-ranging-p...

Edit as reply to nosianu, because I am "posting too fast":

> Liar. Some demand it - but it is not considered by those with the power to actually do it, not even close.

On Monday, the center-left Social Democratic Party (SPD), which is currently serving as the junior coalition partner in Berlin’s conservative-led government, voted unanimously to begin efforts to outlaw [AfD]. - https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/06/europe/germany-afd-ban-po...

The Jewish German intelligence chief trying to ban the AfD - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/12/09/jewish-ger...

I would not call the head of German intelligence and ruling coalition parties "not even close". Kindly save that liar label for yourself.

> The AfD happily participates in state and federal elections and is in the federal parliament (Bundestag).

"Considering" means they haven't done it yet. Some tried, but have not yet succeeded.

[trelane]

I honestly cannot tell if this is serious, or irony, or even meta-irony.