[nocchedure]

I’m heavily invested in the Google ecosystem and nothing would make me happier than switching to a privacy-focused European alternative.

However, the value of the Google Workspace* mid-tier (approx. 15€) is hard to beat, I think.

I get:

- granular domain \ email controls (blocklists, routing rules, etc.)

- 2tb of google drive space

- and now Gemini, which is quite nice

It’s 2025, and I’m still finding it impossible to leave :(

* note: I use Google Workspace as a personal account, with just one (my) user, because that gives me access to the domain and management tools listed above

[omnimus]

Infomanikak “kSuite bussiness” plan 79eur year. 5 email adresses. 3TB drive (their kDrive is legit better than google drive). WebDav/CardDav/CalDav. Their kMeet conferencing is solid.

Recently they got some Euria AI - i havent tried it i bet it's bad. Rest though i really like.

[drcongo]

I really want to get my entire company out of Google and into Infomaniak but persuading anyone to use their docs suite is going to be impossible, it's awful.

[wiether]

I don't want to be _that_ guy pushing Infomaniak on each thread about email, but, yeah, it allowed me to get out of Google (with Kagi) with quite a lot of success.

Regarding Euria, I don't use it much since I have Kagi Assistant and other things via work, but I was quite surprised by the results given its cost.

The only annoying thing I saw was that it kept answering in French even though I prompted in English.

[stanmancan]

It’s far from impossible, you just have to prioritize your privacy at more than a few bucks a month.

[rconti]

Nothing would make parent happier, but they've placed a very small price on their happiness.

[tick_tock_tick]

If it was just privacy it would be an easy sell but there is nothing close to a fully functional alternative then Microsoft.

[mbirth]

Or in this case have a look at the Google Graveyard and/or those many stories of users that lost access to their Google account without any way to contact an actual person that could help them.

[tapete1]

You can get all the domain stuff for less than 1 € from any competent hoster, e.g. netcup. For cloud drive, if you really want to put your own files on someone else's server, there are tons of cheaper options, e.g. 2 TB for 10 €/month from strato. Gemini is of course something that no one needs.

[throw-12-16]

Many people view their personal emails being slurped up by a Google AI model as a pretty big negative.

[ArnoVW]

If you pay for Workspace (like he says he does) your data is your own, just like for any SaaS product.

[fersarr]

How do people get more than 2tb of backup/cloud storage? it seems expensive to pay 20+ per month for this. 2tb+ should be very common these days?

[lostmsu]

Does this include Gemini CLI the terminal vibe coding?