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Why people are mad at Framework

17 points| Shock9889 | 2 months ago |sgued.fr

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faidit|2 months ago

They're overpriced, gimmicky laptops anyway. Thought about getting one last month, really glad I noped out now. The only discrete GPU they sell with is woefully underpowered for gfx-intensive operations. You can get a 5090 laptop for less money.. or two functionally identical laptops for about the same price. Lots of people complaining about various issues with them like build quality also. The repairability selling point depends on them staying in business to sell replacement parts. I might consider paying extra if they seemed cool and dependable. But if they're throwing money at unprofessional, bigoted a-holes, forget it.

Mr_Eri_Atlov|2 months ago

Wasn't this something that happened in October?

henearkr|2 months ago

Rather than "people", it would be more correct to say "some people" are mad at FW.

I'm pro-LGBT+ ("ally"), pro-DEI, ecologist, anything left you name it I'd say, and I'm not mad at FW.

I did not know about this story, neither about Omarchy or DHH, neither even about Hyprland (I don't use Wayland).

And I think that none of those stuff really matter a lot...

immibis|2 months ago

Huge yikes from Framework.

majorchord|2 months ago

It is OK to separate yourself from a group when you deeply disagree with their actions, no matter how insignificant it might seem to a different group of people. However, I am glad this happened. New Linux Ambassadors will step up and this issue will be buried into the alternative social media communities such as Mastodon, never to be heard of again. I disagree that Framework will lose a meaningful amount of business over this.

kachapopopow|2 months ago

People are extremist on both sides and I'd argue people being upset over this are being more extreme than that.

Never force your opinion upon someone else and nobody will ever dislike you, they might not want to be around you - but they will never dislike you.

ranger_danger|2 months ago

Sounds to me like you're trying to force your opinion on us right now... I disagree and have noticed that people will still dislike you for any random reason or no reason at all.

imiric|2 months ago

I don't think it's just a matter of liking or disliking people. Rather, there's a cultural trend in certain demographics of being highly sensitive and politically correct. Some opinions are "forbidden" if there is a slightest hint that they might be offensive to a proverbial someone, whether real or imaginary.

Then there is the performative aspect of this. One of the unfortunate side effects of our social media virtually hyper "connected" and engagement-driven society are performative thoughts and actions. People will do anything for views and likes, including behaving in ways that mimic certain trends. There are examples of people faking diseases and doing insane stunts all for engagement and a chance at their 15 minutes of fame. This has transformed how our culture operates both online and offline, turning into this weird feedback loop.

To be clear: I'm not downplaying real societal problems like racism, discrimination, and abusive behaviour. But we're too quick to incriminate people for thoughtcrimes. It's truly dystopian if you think about it.

ranger_danger|2 months ago

I'm a lot more upset that so many people let Linus Torvalds continue to get away with his abusive attitude still to this day (who just recently called the SFC "pure trash"), than a right-to-repair company that transparently gives money away.