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agobineau | 2 months ago

legal bucket shops is exactly what they are

a market maker (MM) (citadel, optiver) etc makes money in the most part by filtering a trade from customer, and then agreeing or disagreeing with its sentiment. If you buy say msft at $480 and they think it will dip below $480 they will 'hold risk' and wait for it to dip to say $470 then execute your trade, making $10

except instead of aiming to make 2% on a single trade, they aim to make maybe 5 cents this way on a $480 stock, mostly holding for less than a few seconds, on millions of trades an hour

thus, robinhood very valuable because it encouraged retail investors to have high trading volume on complex instruments. that "order flow" then sold to MM like above for fixed rates or % shares.

MM are ultimately a good thing because they provide liquidity. there is always a person willing to take the other side of a trade when you click. if you trade in a boondocks stock market like singapore or new zealand you will quickly see the market run dry and you cant get out of a position

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musicale|1 month ago

> they aim to make maybe 5 cents this way on a $480 stock, mostly holding for less than a few seconds, on millions of trades an hour

> MM are ultimately a good thing because they provide liquidity. there is always a person willing to take the other side of a trade when you click

At the end of the day, it's not clear where the liquidity is going to come from unless there are non-middlemen buyers on the other side.

Reducing typical spread and commission fees seems like a more realistic benefit.