[kaoD]

> in any meaningful sense

Who said anything about meaning? People being shit at the game invalidates that the game ruleset is competitive?

[ndriscoll]

It invalidates the idea that we need to take it seriously and have locked down computers with remote attestation to play games. People who take games seriously are a very small niche. You are in a bubble if you think otherwise.

This is like saying we need to institute drug testing at all parks to play football. Cheating in sports is a problem that very few players are concerned with. Caring about who wins isn't even common. Most are just kicking a ball around with their mates.

[skibidithink]

People who even know what remote attestation is are an even smaller niche.

[kaoD]

> You are in a bubble if you think otherwise.

Yeah I'm the one in a bubble because I think players that play competitive games expect competitive integrity, regardless of their skill level.