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erohead | 1 month ago

Proud of this one! Feel free to ask any questions you might have.

(Pebble founder)

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treffer|1 month ago

I pre-ordered because I loved the Pebble Round - especially the size and look. My intended use case is for formal dress codes and special events (weddings, new years, ...) wheretny fennix 51mm does not fit in (literally and figuratively).

That said: I can't find full dimensions for the new round 2. I can guesstimate that it should be 10-20% smaller in diameter and less than 2/3 the thickness.

Would you mind sharing full dimensions or even update the post?

And congratulations! I really like this. I hope there will be enough of a market to support this project long term.

apparent|1 month ago

Yes, the slimness and ability to dress up are certainly huge selling points. It does look about 1/4 thinner than the PT2, which is presumably much thinner/smaller than your fennix.

Honestly, even with a PT2 on order, I would consider getting one of these for the occasions (1x/wk?) where I am wearing a dress shirt or otherwise want to look a little more dressed up. It honestly would probably also be a nice conversation starter because you can set it up with a traditional watchface, but then when you get a notification it would obviously not be a traditional watch. And it's so much thinner than Google/Samsung and other round smartwatches, it wouldn't be confused with those.

illright|1 month ago

Is the Round 2 also going to have screws to potentially replace the battery, like Time 2 does?

Also, while watching the announcement video, I noticed that the pixels are quite a bit more visible on the Round 2 on the same watchface, when compared to Time 2 — on the Time 2, the image is a lot more crisp. Is that a matter of adapting the watchfaces to the bigger screen?

erohead|1 month ago

> Screws

Nope! No screws on this one.

> Is that a matter of adapting the watchfaces to the bigger screen?

Yes, exactly.

rollcat|1 month ago

The specs link directly to the Pebble Appstore, which showcases a bunch of really cool watchfaces that are... all for the square screen. I think it would be wonderful to land the user on a showcase of faces specifically adapted for the round screen.

Willamin|1 month ago

Is a normal (non-rose) gold (or even a brass) color something we could look forward go in the future?

Was the decision to not sell that color based on expected demand for the color or did it not work for some other reason?

erohead|1 month ago

No plans to offer more SKUs, sorry. Already have enough to manage.

cyberax|1 month ago

I like everything about Pebble Round 2, except that it's round. I _HATE_ round watches with a passion, it's just form over function for electronic watches. Coincidentally, that's also why I still have an iWatch even though my phone is Android. There are _no_ good rectangular Android watches.

Are you planning something like this but with a rectangular screen? I have Time 2 on pre-order, but I'd love to buy a water-resistant watch.

nosrepa|1 month ago

The time 2 is water resistant.

donkey_brains|1 month ago

This is awesome, congrats Eric. Almost makes me wish I hadn’t switched from Android -> iOS last year before the Pebble announcements started coming out. Any idea if we might see more compatibility with iOS in the near future as Apple is forced to open up the ecosystem a little due to EU regulations? I know they had to allow reading iMessages on 3rd party smartwatches recently which sounds promising for Pebble. Apologies if you already blogged about this and I missed it!

erohead|1 month ago

still works fine with iOS, will work even better in EU next year when Apple is forced to comply with the DMA.

rationalist|1 month ago

It's not too late to switch back! I'm running GrapheneOS on a Pixel, but supposedly GrapheneOS is working with an OEM to have a GrapheneOS-native phone if you want to wait a little longer.

utopcell|1 month ago

@erohead: do the new Pebbles still support the strap interface? With the screen now being 1.5" and the resolution being much higher than the original ones, they would make great little retro gaming consoles with the control buttons on the strap. Similar to a funkey-s console.

erohead|1 month ago

Unfortunately no - it basically had zero usage

gen3|1 month ago

On the repebble compare chart the round is marked as having both a speaker and mic, that’s incorrect right?

girvo|1 month ago

As someone who had the original Pebble Steel, and then moved to the Pebble Round (20mm) until it literally stopped working, I'm super happy you've done this, and incredibly happy that you let me change my pre-order from my Time 2 to the Round 2. Can't wait!

laweijfmvo|1 month ago

What kind of “sleep tracking” can you really offer with no heart rate monitor?

erohead|1 month ago

Generally most sleep tracking products use actigraphy (measurements of your movement) to track sleep. Pebble partnered with researchers at Stanford back in the day to produce an algorithm for our operating system, which worked quite well and is now open source!

You can read the code and see how the sleep tracking algorithm works here - https://github.com/coredevices/PebbleOS/blob/main/src%2Ffw%2...

jmcphers|1 month ago

I own the Pebble 2 Duo and the answer is "almost none". It basically just tells you how long you were still/not moving much in the evening, as you'd expect. It's a pretty good proxy for what time you went to bed and got up, and that's about it. It can't actually tell if you're asleep.

There are also (currently) no sleep metrics on app itself; you can only see them on the watch, which doesn't show much besides the sleep duration and an abstract representation showing where you might have woken up in the night.

michielr|1 month ago

Haven't watched the video yet, but I don't see the vibrating motor/linear actuator mentioned. I'm assuming this is still included? I'll be switching my Pebble Time 2 order over, these look fantastic.

hollow-moe|1 month ago

How does the sleep tracking works on the Round? Is it reliable? I'm currently using a Mi Band 7 and it works great with gadgetbridge and it has a heart-rate monitor.

erohead|1 month ago

Sleep tracking works well on all Pebbles!

stinkys|1 month ago

Hi erohead, the Round 2 looks beaut! But why on Earth doesn't it have a heart rate monitor?

erohead|1 month ago

Would make it thicker, I wanted it to be very thin.

johnflan|1 month ago

Thats the primary reason I'm interested in it.

15155|1 month ago

What is the e-paper display part number / manufacturer?

erohead|1 month ago

sharp, same display that's in Garmin MIP watches (like Forerunner 255) but tbh looks much better in Round 2!

doctorpangloss|1 month ago

this is supposed to be the part where i say something about the smart watch. i own a $20 Casio F91 that should cost $3 at retail, which is to say, i'm not really your intended audience. is performative positivity an obligation for interesting questions? is it the only framework to figure out products? do you see?

is positivity the only valid emotion for a product launch?

how do you balance your experience with the rewards of taking risks?

alphager|1 month ago

Is the situation with Rebble solved?

bl4kers|1 month ago

Rebble apologized, withdrew claims, and left the door open for future collaboration. They are restructuring/reorganizing.

Core Devices pushed out modularity updates to be less dependent on Rebble's app store and started their own.

That's the latest public information.

MarcelOlsz|1 month ago

Dude you are an inspiration. So amped on the Pebble 01 I sent a multi-paragraph screed to your team lol.