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evil-olive | 1 month ago

> How often does it happen in Chevys or Toyotas?

three things in life are certain: death, taxes, and whataboutism from Tesla apologists

from the article I linked:

> In an effort to take a comprehensive and systematic look at this issue, Bloomberg sought to examine every fatal EV crash in the US involving a fire. From there, the reporting centered around cases in which there was documented evidence that victims had survived initial impact, and that nonfunctional electric doors had impeded either the occupants’ efforts to escape or rescuers’ attempts to save those inside the vehicle.

this has nothing to do with the Jaws of Life. this is about the car catches fire and the door handles stop working.

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wat10000|1 month ago

One of the reasons the door handle would stop working is if the structure was bent enough to jam the doors.

danaris|1 month ago

Let me lay this out for you very clearly:

There are a number of possible reasons that any car's doors might not work. Tesla, Ford, Toyota, doesn't matter. Those are just due to the laws of physics. No one is disputing that.

Teslas have an additional reason that their doors might not work in an emergency. And given the frequency with which it sounds like this is happening, it may be much more common in an emergency scenario for this particular situation to occur than for any of the others.

No one is claiming that any other car on the road is 100% safe in all situations. They are pointing out that Tesla has this extra, totally unnecessary, method of killing its occupants. Dying in terror. Trapped.

What you're doing is effectively like saying, "It's not bad that Evil Water™ With Cyanide kills you! People drown in water all the time! You can even die by drinking regular water if you drink too much! You really shouldn't focus on the cyanide in Evil Water™ With Cyanide!"

evil-olive|1 month ago

> One of the reasons the door handle would stop working is if the structure was bent enough to jam the doors.

right...if a car gets T-boned, that might jam the doors such that they couldn't open. that's true of every model of car.

I have a non-Tesla car, with "old-fashioned" manual door handles. if I got rear-ended, and my driver's side door wasn't physically damaged, I can reasonably expect that my door handle still works, right?

on a Tesla, that's not true. a rear-end collision that damages the electrical system can cause doors that are physically undamaged to stop working. that is a ludicrous design flaw.