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incognito124 | 1 month ago

Thank you, Microsoft, for accelerating the advent of The Year of The Linux Desktop

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AnthOlei|1 month ago

I switched my parents onto Linux a couple months ago, after my mom kept getting confused between edge and chrome - not being to uninstall edge was the last straw, but the massive amount of adware slowing down her capable-but-old laptop was a close second.

So far so good! Some smaller hiccups, like chrome won’t use dolphin, but I installed rustdesk so I can help them through whatever.

Over Christmas the in-laws were asking about Linux because of windows issues, which was surprising since they’re technologically literate but in a layman sense. I didn’t try to switch them over since the parent experiment is still ongoing but a couple more months of seamless use and I’ll consider it a success.

All this to say I’m very glad for Microsoft leadership!

incognito124|1 month ago

My non-technical friend installed linux on her 10yo old laptop by herself after a windows update slowed down her device and rendered it unusable. She said she said she read about it somewhere and that the Ubuntu installation was pretty intuitive.

I was both amazed and proud. She's daily driving Linux now

(to be fair, it's just tv shows and web apps like chatgpt or docs, but still, Linux is now a good-enough alternative, at least anegdotally)

theandrewbailey|1 month ago

Sometime around 2012, Windows XP started having issues on my parent's PC, so I installed Xubuntu on it (my preferred distro at the time). I told them that "it works like Windows", showed them how to check email, browse the web, play solitare, and shut down. Even the random HP printer + scanner they had worked great! I went back home 2 states away, and expected a call from them to "put it back to what it was", but it never happened. (The closest was Mom wondering why solitare (the gnome-games version) was different, then guided her on how to change the game type to klondike.)

If "it [Xubuntu] works like Windows" offended you, I'd like to point out that normies don't care about how operating system kernels are designed. Normies care about things like a start menu, and that the X in the corner closes programs. The interface is paramount for non-technical users.

A family friend recently called me for advice on her old decrepit laptop. I told her about my work "laptop": a Surface Pro tablet with Linux. I just sold one to her (I work in e-waste recycling), partially on the security and privacy advantages of Linux. Lets see how that works out.

spuz|1 month ago

My elderly parents asked me to install Linux on their laptops this Christmas after finally getting sick of the adware on Windows. If Microsoft can make them switch, anyone can.

owaislone|1 month ago

Cool. I used to install it on all my family and friends computer when I was a teenager but as I grew older and had less and less time, being the constant tech support guy for everyone I introduced to Linux got very hard so I stopped recommended/installing it. Which distro did you choose for your parents?

fwipsy|1 month ago

After my mom's Chromebook died I switched her to Ubuntu + Firefox on a Thinkpad x201 and it's been her daily driver for years. I keep asking to buy her a newer laptop with a bigger screen (800p is pretty painful these days) but she won't let me.

Fnoord|1 month ago

I switched my mum to Unix(-like).

Her router is running Linux. I can tell because of the speed of the WLAN alone.

Her STB runs Linux, specifically Android TV (Nvidia Shield TV). Thanks for adding the fantastic ads in the newest Android TV, Google! /s

Her vacuum cleaner runs Linux, I know because I slapped Valetudo on it.

Her NAS runs Linux (DSM), Synology.

Her printer runs Linux (Brother).

Her Raspberry Pi with Home Assistant runs Linux (DietPi).

Her tablet runs macOS variant, iPadOS.

Her smartphone runs macOS variant, iOS.

Her smartwatch will run macOS variant, watchOS.

OK, fair enough. Her laptop! Her laptop still runs Win... wait a sec, she hasn't had a laptop for more than a decade. She's been using that super expensive hardware keyboard for iPad. My mum never even used Windows 10 or 11. Her laptop came with Windows Vista back in the days, it was terribly sluggish.

I don't know which year it is, but it isn't the year of the Windows OS.

And yes, I am super happy with Microsoft using thumb screws like these. Squeeze them tight. The more computers will slip through your fingers, grand moff Nadella.

petepete|1 month ago

They're pulling out all the stops. If you told me that whoever was in charge of the consumer versions of Windows was trying to drive it into the ground, I'd believe you.

chocochunks|1 month ago

They're working on Xbox too!

dotancohen|1 month ago

To be fair, Microsoft did deliberately drive Nokia into the ground.

eek2121|1 month ago

I've been using Linux since the 90s, however I was never super awesome with it. I can do the basic stuff, and with a bit of documentation/guidance, a bit more. I was able to install Arch Linux at least 3X, for example. I also managed to build a kernel like twice...although I didn't do a great job of configuration.

I think my crowning achievement came early on when I managed to follow Linux From Scratch all the way through.

I say all of this to say that I am finally off Windows for good. It has become my daily driver. I've no obstacles. Not in gaming, software dev, personal work, media consumption (beyond streaming services degrading streams for a non-supported OS), or anything else. I've found open source apps to be quite a bit better than their closed source equivalents.

Things have really shifted in the past 5-10 years, and I dig it. KDE + CachyOS is great! Although I hear Bazzite is better for new users (I have some decent experience using Arch so I prefer Cachy)

I don't foresee ever moving back to Windows. The AI and constant push to Microsoft Edge, Second OOB experience, and other nonsense (including Diablo 2: resurrected, a [now] Microsoft owned product that still gets a few updates, hard locking my system), I decided to take my ball and go home...to Linux. A few people I know who aren't even remotely computer literate at all have done the same, and they've been surprised at how much better everything is, particularly on somewhat older hardware.

GuB-42|1 month ago

I suspect that Microsoft doesn't even care anymore.

Windows is not at the core of their strategy anymore. With Azure, they are as much of a Linux company as they are a Windows company now, and most of their software runs in a browser now. Windows is just a gateway to their services.

If it was easy for them to have their users run Linux instead of Windows and sell Office 365 subscriptions, they would prefer that instead of having to maintain a full OS.

throwaway1389z|1 month ago

The only thing holding millions, possibly in the 100s, from switching to Desktop Linux from Windows is Apple's iPhone support.

stefanfisk|1 month ago

As a Mac user I might be missing something obvious - why do they need iPhone support on their computer?

nacozarina|1 month ago

Nadella is The Linux Hitman

FridayoLeary|1 month ago

every discussion like this has at least one of these comments. The year of the Linux Desktop must be nearly here. They've been predicting it for years already!

llm_nerd|1 month ago

As the old saying goes, it happens slowly and then all at once. The things tethering people to Windows have largely disappeared for many/most people.

One of my sons has a desktop that is quite powerful and overwhelmingly adequate for what he does. As Windows 10 hit the end of support we were considering how to move forward as Windows 11 refuses to work on his device. We realized there is absolutely nothing keeping him on Windows, and perhaps we just replace his PC with a Mac Mini. But in the meantime he's rolling with Ubuntu and has lost absolutely nothing and gained plenty.

leptons|1 month ago

For me, after 35 years of Windows, 2025 was the year of the Linux desktop. Finally. Linux has become a lot better, and my skills with Linux have too. And Microsoft screwed me over a few times too many. I had bought a "lifetime license" for Outlook, which cost me over $100 a couple of years ago. So then I wanted to upgrade the CPU on the machine running the VM where I had Outlook running, and suddenly that "lifetime license" ended due to the CPU being different. That was really the last straw for me. I moved to Linux Mint and Firebird for email, and it's been great. Now all of my VMs are running Linux, all the locally hosted services I had running have Linux binaries. The switch was a lot easier than I anticipated.

If Microsoft is alienating people like me, using Windows for 35 years, they can alienate anyone.

The forced buying of new hardware just to run Windows 11 is going to be the last straw for a lot of people. And Apple is really no better, their existing x86 machines have the same problem. We could no longer update a MBP, and other software stopped working due to the inability to update (and sorry, no we're not going to use hacky solutions to force it to update).

abdusco|1 month ago

Linux on desktop = the fusion energy of computing.

criddell|1 month ago

Is it The Year of the Linux Desktop again?

mat_b|1 month ago

Haha. Been seeing this comment for at least 20 years now. Some things never change...

pjmlp|1 month ago

Being repeated since Windows XP days, and yet without Proton there is no Linux gaming.

gligorot|1 month ago

There is a chicken/egg problem.

We should be happy it has a solution.

nkrisc|1 month ago

So there is Linux gaming, you’re saying.

timeon|1 month ago

Sure but not everyone is using desktop for gaming.

capitol_|1 month ago

And yet, without the software for Linux gaming, there is no Linux gaming.

Very hard to falsify such a statement.