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bigthymer | 1 month ago

> The truth is Americans do want this

I'm not so sure. Sure, they want the benefits that are provided. However, if being aware of what the costs are to get those benefits apriori, I'm not sure Americans would think the exchange worthwhile.

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trhway|1 month ago

> Sure, they want the benefits that are provided. However, if being aware of what the costs are to get those benefits apriori

no being aware is the key here. For example just on NPR - 40% of American kids think bacon is a plant.

(Don't get me wrong - i intentionally immigrated to US and i like all those benefits of life here. Speaking about the costs of that to the rest of the world - back in Russia i worked for domestic employers as well as for a US based one, and being "exploited" by the US based employer were much nicer than by the domestics.)

skinner927|1 month ago

Children ages 4-7.

They also believe a fat man dressed in red zips around the earth one night to give everyone presents.

They’re children. They don’t need to know where bacon and hot dogs come from.

I doubt those children care about anything outside their bubble.

esseph|1 month ago

Those are 4-7 year old children in the study, but still...

tdeck|1 month ago

While that might certainly be true in the abstract, it isn't worth much.

Most people would probably eat less meat if they knew exactly what was happening to the animals in that process. We'd eat less chocolate if we really thought about the slavery in the chocolate supply chain. We'd not buy certain products because of the environmental impact and working conditions.

But instead we just mostly deliberately avoid learning and thinking about those things. And I count myself as well. The incentives all push Americans to be OK with this.

tekknik|1 month ago

I think you and your parent think that people have more of a concern of others than actual reality. Most americans walk past homeless people and think nothing of it. Most americans, and certainly those in wealthy cities, care about others at a superficial level. For instance you and your parent complain, and that’s where it ends. You will not sacrifice yourself or your life for others, asking others to is just negligent.