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mavvvricks | 1 month ago

Small partner here who absolutely love Odoo for what it is and you can make it to be.

But - I can't wrap my head around why an on-prem customer cannot be allowed to run the upgrade scripts on-prem.

I have almost lost customers to it, and it's a super big headache delaying the upgrade process for both political and technical reasons.

Having tried to discuss the options and reasons with both Odoo support and employees at OXP has been an almost Kafkaesque experience.

Please explain to me like I am 5 years old.

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pinky07|1 month ago

2 reasons:

1/ Upgrade are super complex: requires a service, not just a script

2/ We used it to monetize Odoo Enterprise

Upgrade: Even after 1000+ upgrades, we still run into issues regularly as every environment is different (set of modules, customizations, community apps, ...). So we need to test the database, and fix scripts when necessary. If we would just provide scripts, it would cost us a lot in support for issues... and a bad customer experience. At least, by having the control we can ensure a smooth customer experience; it just works - and you don't see everything we do behind. (most of the time)

Monetization: The open core business model is hard, when your goal is to do a maximum open source. Our main competitor being Odoo Community, we charge 5x less than competitors for a better software. (25€ vs 180€)

So, we had to pick a few apps and services to monetize Odoo Enterprise, like the accounting app, or the upgrade service.

Fortunetally, there is OpenUpgrade (scripts from the community) so that there is no lock-in on the upgrade. (you spend time with open-upgrade or go to Enterprise and we do it)

mavvvricks|1 month ago

Me and my customers are perfectly happy to even pay for the upgrade scripts, just allow us to run them on-prem.

Make it an encrypted binary for all I care, just allow us to run it on-prem.

Edit-due-to-pinky07-reply-edit:) 1+2 - I get all that. Perhaps provide enterprise customers with a GitHub repo to the upgrade scripts? Require the same subscription key like for Enterprise proper. Then you can continue to iterate on the scripts while still giving customers who wants (and pays extra!) for it as a white glove service to run it on their own servers.

Might be that me and some of my customers are old-school "server huggers", but I think it is holy to be able to decide on which CPU and disk my DB is processed on.

furtfight|1 month ago

Is it possible to pay to have an Odoo employee execute the migration script on the on premise server? I remember I heard about that but I don't know if it's still an option.