[t_mahmood]

I prefer Wayland, as I feel Wayland's performance is much smoother than Xorg. Though, I have no use for VRR, and I hate the slight lag that is introduced due to font scaling, so I do not use it either.

But, I am stuck on Xorg only because of one app that I have to use to work.

> My guess is that we'll only start seeing Wayland adoption when distributions start forcing it or making it a strong default, like what happened with systemd.

This is already happening. in my knowledge, Archlinux, Ubuntu already switched to Gnome 49, which do not support X without recompilation. So most likely, any distro using Gnome 49 upwards will not provide Xorg by default. KDE also going to do it soon.

Xorg is going away pretty soon

I believe its step to the right direction, only issue is some annoying app holding us back

[cogman10]

This is the real reason to make the wayland switch.

It doesn't really matter if you like or dislike wayland, the major DE have decided they don't like X11 and they are making the switch to wayland. X11 code is actively being removed from these desktop environments.

If you want to use X11, you can either stay on an old unmaintained DE or switch to a smaller one that supports X11. But you should realize that with wayland being the thing major DEs are targeting, your experience with X11 will likely degrade with time.

[hakfoo]

I guess I don't quite understand what the selling point of a "desktop environment" is. I use a grab-bag of random software but generally don't bother with the KDE and GNOME-specific stuff.

It reminds me of things like the pack-in software you get with Windows. It's convenient because it all comes in one place and more or less works together, but not much of it is particularly best-of-breed.

I guess they've sucked a lot of air out of some niches though-- I suspect a lot of utilities for things like system configuration and file management have turned into parts of the desktop environment rather than standalone tools.

[t_mahmood]

Yes, and besides, developers not having to support two servers, can focus on improving the DE where it actually matters. And with that, fixing issues, adding features becomes much faster.

I see it as a win for both developers and users in the long run.

[yjftsjthsd-h]

> But, I am stuck on Xorg only because of one app that I have to use to work.

Does XWayland help?

[t_mahmood]

Unfortunately no. The app takes automatic screenshots, and the developers are simply not interested to fix it.