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roger_ | 1 month ago

Is there a mainstream distro that disregards all the legacy cruft? Gobo, but that’s not really mainstream.

Mac OS?

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wasting_time|1 month ago

NixOS and Guix are fairly established in this regard.

macOS is certified Unix, and necessarily implements the "legacy" cruft.

Imustaskforhelp|1 month ago

I had written a similar comment here asking for people's opinion but I would like to add something that I know about which I didn't see in your list

Tinycorelinux

I know that it doesn't follow the best user practices etc. but I did find its tcz package format fascinating because they kind of work similar to mountable drives and I am not exactly sure but I am fairly certain that a modern package management system where two or more packages with conflicts etc. can run on the same system.

I really enjoyed the idea of gobolinux as well. I haven't played with that but it would be good if some more mainstream os could also implement it. Nix and Guix are more mainstream but they also require to learn a new language and I think that we might need something in the middle like gobo but perhaps more mainstream or adding more ideas / additions perhaps? I would love it if someone can tell me about some projects we are missing to talk about and what they add on the table etc.

I haven't tried Gobo though so I am not sure but I really wish more distros could add features like gobo, perhaps even having a gobofied debian/fedora eh?

behnamoh|1 month ago

at some point we gotta let go of legacy stuff tho, and Apple has shown in the past that they're not afraid of doing that.

em500|1 month ago

macOS has all of that (mostly inherited from NeXTSTEP which was significantly based on 4.3/4.4BSD). It's hidden by default in the GUI, visible in Terminal.

Nowadays most end users just use /usr/local or /opt/local or whatever is managed by Homebrew or Macports.

olowe|1 month ago

Plan 9 is definitely not mainstream but readers of your comment's replies may find it interesting when looking into Unix/Linux cruft.

dev_l1x_be|1 month ago

Not really. I wish we had a new OS based on the Linux kernel - the legacy (shared files, r/w mounted OS, etc). I think Google's Fuchsia has some interesting ideas.