[electriclove]

Why assume I am trying to force abstinence? I am aiming for a long-term, healthy, communicative relationship with my children.

[LorenPechtel]

You are trying to make a lack of abstinence more hazardous.

As far as I'm concerned this is child abuse.

[electriclove]

I'll never understand how differences of opinion can make people so extreme. Child abuse is a serious issue and you have gone through some mental gymnastics to conflate child abuse with my decision to not vaccinate my 9, 10 or 11 year old child for HPV.