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'Bandersnatch': The Works That Inspired the 'Black Mirror' Interactive Feature (2019)

83 points| rafaepta | 1 month ago |hollywoodreporter.com

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mattbee|1 month ago

This is such a fascinating & personally inspiring time for me as a programmer.

The real game Bandersnatch (as a business folly) was something else - the "coming soon" advert from just before Imagine's bankruptcy would probably ring an alarm bell now - https://nosher.net/archives/computers/imagine_eugeneevans_yo...

Some of the programmers of Bandersnatch did release Gift From The Gods from the ashes of Bandersnatch - which I definitely had on my Spectrum! But it was very confusing - https://www.crashonline.org.uk/13/giftgod.htm

This 1984 documentary from the BBC archive covers Imagine's growth & demise, must have been a great visual reference for Brooker making the show, and the top comment has some more detail on Imagine's hiring spree - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buuUZFh_pyk also also check out 4:30 or so, where they show the game and the device that will "eventually be reduced to a small cartridge and sold with the game"!!

Also also the name Ritman is probably a reference to Jon Ritman, programmer of the brilliant Head Over Heels. But he was nothing to do with Imagine. He still gives interviews and seems lovely.

nbevans|1 month ago

I wanted to re-watch this on Netflix but it seems they removed it some time ago and have no plans to bring it back. It seems the interactivity features were obsoleted from their app platform as they were hard to support?

silisili|1 month ago

> as they were hard to support?

X to doubt. The tech worked fine. The real issue is that nobody wants choose-your-own-adventure TV, which has been proven again and again.

Wowfunhappy|1 month ago

It makes no sense to me at all. If they don't want to support interactivity features in their overall Netflix.com front-end, they should release a separate app.

They're still trying to get into video games—they just bought the rights to FIFA, for goodness sakes—so they should make use of their ready-made content.

There is no way the actual code for selecting choices is particularly complicated. Maybe as part of a larger codebase it could become tech debt, but on its own?

tjpnz|1 month ago

Probably couldn't find anyone willing to put their job on the line to maintain it. Netflix culture is big on chasing "impact" and other subjective metrics. Putting your hand up to maintain legacy only used by a small group of users is a good way to get yourself absolutely slaughtered even if the thing was liked. IIRC they had a sports quote which summarizes this better.

gabriel666smith|1 month ago

If you're a Philip K. Dick-head, you might enjoy the episodes of the podcast Weird Studies which cover his life and work.

The hosts often focus on his Exegesis, mentioned in the article. It feels like a privilege to hear two very smart academics engage in longform discussion - in which they're unconstrained, and clearly having genuine fun - about Dick's work.

More broadly, the non-Dick episodes are also wonderful, and often cover the kind of art I typically see discussed here.

You can dip in for times they cover work you love already, to hear their interesting (and academically, often quite new) perspectives on your favourites, or listen from the start, chronologically, as a kind of curriculum in the weird. Which I found to be an incredibly useful thing.

I'm not associated in any way, just a fan, and think a lot of users here would enjoy it: https://www.weirdstudies.com/10

a-dub|1 month ago

the classic was dragon's lair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Lair_(1983_video_ga...

laserdiscs were a weird 70s/80s analog optical video disc technology where many players had a db-9 (edit: just looked these up, apparently they had a db-25 connector) serial port for a serial control protocol. dragon's lair was a classic stand up video game cabinet with a laserdisc player and a simple control system that created a "choose your own adventure" interface for the video content.

some of the first computer programs i ever wrote were atari st programs for controlling a laserdisc player. (we had one in elementary school)

nickdothutton|1 month ago

I visited Psygnosis in the early days, we sold them an Internet connection. Hard to describe the kind of creative energy emanating from their building. Such talent.

curiousObject|1 month ago

>Hard to describe

But why not try? It is history, and you are a unique witness of it

Retz4o4|1 month ago

Fantastically fun when it was released.

pants2|1 month ago

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sgt101|1 month ago

Colin Ritman is so Demis Hassabis.

casey2|1 month ago

This has the same vibe I get from tech-sphere articles. The number of people who've read The Jabberwocky dwarfs this "interactive feature". Reading this article outside of the context it was written makes it sound tone-deaf