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redserk | 1 month ago

I'm tired of this point being repeated. This is not universally true. I'm in communities where the more active discussions are not ragebait.

I'd say HN's problem is rooted in that many folks participate in malicious contrarianism.

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pixl97|1 month ago

>I'm in communities where the more active discussions

And they are heavily moderated against negative discussion/ragebait.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3652533/

>specifically, across an array of psychological situations and tasks, adults display a negativity bias, or the propensity to attend to, learn from, and use negative information far more than positive information.

This is a human problem and it happens everywhere.

redserk|1 month ago

How can you know the moderation style of the spaces I visit, when I haven't even linked them here?

nospice|1 month ago

> And they are heavily moderated against negative discussion/ragebait.

So? You have to do that because it takes one toxic person to poison the well. HN is aggressively moderated to get rid of articles and opinions that don't belong too. Without it, it would be just a constant stream of self-promotion and politics.

The point is that in certain other places, someone (the moderators) worked to nourish a positive culture and it worked. HN didn't and it shows. I don't think that negativity is necessary to keep the forum interesting. Especially given that HN's negativity really isn't all that insightful. A lot of negative takes are bad, and many of them are written without reading the article, or by cherrypicking a single sentence and attacking that.

epolanski|1 month ago

There's a lot of scientific evidence that negative and controversial content has multiple psychological effects of high emotional arousal, triggers the confrontation effect and toxicity breeds retention.

We're more likely to keep arguing here when disagreeing than to agree and add much.

And again, this isn't limited to internet but irl too.

redserk|1 month ago

It depends how you want to measure engagement and activity. Quality of discussion is something to consider. It's very difficult to have a proper discussion when all of the responses are the same expected replies to low-effort ragebait.