[themk]

I really wish people would stop sharing that article as if it means anything. Nina Teicholz is not who you should be getting your science from.

Her views are not the scientific consensus. She is not a scientist, she is a journalist with an agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Teicholz

[brodouevencode]

Neither should we have trusted Ancel Keys, but here we are

[themk]

That is quite an extreme take, and one that sounds like it was born from parroting social media takes. Ancel Keys was largely correct, and much of what he said is corroborated by modern science. Probably his main issue was that he was a bit too focused on saturated fat, which is not wrong, but not the only factor. He was wrong that sugar is just empty calories, though he never recommended replacing fat with sugar.

Modern science agrees that saturated fats lead to CVD, but replacing saturated fats with refined carbs also leads to CVD, which Ancel Keys didn't believe (though, to be fair, the populations he studied didn't have access to the types of refined carbohydrates we have today)

The dietary guidelines derived from his work did backfire, but Keys never said to replace saturated fats with refined carbs, which is what ended up happening. He advocated for substituting different fats. But the message that ended up being received was "no fat at all", which no scientist ever actually recommended AFAIU.

The diet he actually recommends is well studied, and found to be protective.

[nomel]

Fair enough! I was not aware of that. But she's far from the only one. There appears to be a wall of meta-analysis stating the same, but again, I'm naive and just googling.

[devilsdata]

Diary and beef are huge industries, with the processors dominating the industry. Vegetable, legume, and grain processors are much more fragmented.

The dairy and beef industry can and do pool their money into paying for scientific studies [to show the results they want]. This manifested itself with a coordinated attack on the Ancel Keys studies.

So just reading meta-analyses saying the inverse is not going to help you arrive at the truth, when the well has been poisoned. I personally don't have the literacy to sort fact from fiction, but I know that cardiologists tend to believe the Ancel Keys studies. That's enough of a recommendation for me to believe it to.

Plus I was able to reduce my cholesterol from like 7.0 to 2.4 by eating high fibre and low saturated fat for about 6 months.