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khaki54 | 1 month ago

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

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energy123|1 month ago

Safety protects liberty, otherwise you get public safety authoritarians like Duterte or Bukele. This is not advocacy for authoritarianism. It's advocacy for assertive liberalism that is effective at delivering a core human need in order to protect liberalism from itself.

immibis|1 month ago

The key words are "essential" and "temporary" - the nouns can be replaced with pretty much anything.

In what way do you think the USA is currently doing better than China? Yes you can talk about Tiananmen Square, obviously, but there are other things you can't talk about.

Xunjin|1 month ago

Which essential Liberty you think Chinese people do not have?

Arn_Thor|1 month ago

Freedom of speech, freedom of association and freedom from abitrary detention, just to name a few.

Of course some speech, association and rule of law (as opposed to rule by law) is enjoyed by most people. But it is indisputable that China restricts speech and association severely, and silences "troublemakers" arbitrarily.

Let me preempt the inevitable replies: this comment is about China and China alone. It it factual irrespective of what freedoms may or may not be enjoyed anywhere else including the US.

irishcoffee|1 month ago

Freedom of information is the first thing that comes to mind.